Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: FMD-ROM : 140 Gb for your tablebases!

Author: José Antônio Fabiano Mendes

Date: 06:29:52 03/21/00

Go up one level in this thread


On March 21, 2000 at 09:04:06, Bernhard Bauer wrote:

>On March 20, 2000 at 12:28:57, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On March 20, 2000 at 03:49:50, Paulo Soares wrote:
>>
>>>On March 20, 2000 at 00:58:48, Côme wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 19, 2000 at 22:22:34, Paulo Soares wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 19, 2000 at 21:48:30, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>...maybe it will be available in the next 2 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A. Ponti
>>>>>
>>>>>Which would be the largest number of pieces to be used in Nalimov
>>>>>Tablebases with 140Mgz? 7, 8, 9?
>>>>>
>>>>>Paulo Soares, from Brazil
>>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>IMHO only 6 pieces.
>>>>Best Regards
>>>>Alexandre Côme
>>>
>>>Only 6! How many memory for 7 pieces?
>>>Thanks,
>>>Paulo
>>
>>I think that if you want all of them you need about some hundreds times more
>>memory for adding one piece.
>>
>>The problem is that the number of possibility of 7 pieces is significantly
>>bigger than the number of possibility of 6 pieces and not only the fact that you
>>need about 60 times more memory for one 7 pieces tablebase relative to 6 pieces
>>tablebase.
>>
>>You need some Gbytes for 5 pieces tablebases
>>then you probably need  some hundreds of thoushands of Gbytes for all the 7
>>pieces tablebases
>>
>>You need sometimes hundreds of mbytes for one 5 pieces tablebases so you need
>>something some Gbytes to use one 6 men tablebases and you need something like
>>100-200 Gbytes to use only one 7 men tablebase.
>>
>>Uri
>
>As a rule of thumb the number of files for n+1 men tablebases is 4 times the
>number of n men files. The size is going up with a factor of ~60. So if you
>need 5 gigs for the 5-men class you will need about 1.2 tera bytes for the
>6-men class. This is "only" 30 40-gig drives.
>IMHO it would make a good project for a university to generate and hold them on
>disk.
>
>Kind regards
>Bernhard
IIRC,Ken Thompson will store the 6-piece endgames in DVD.
Paper:http://nobi.inf.ethz.ch/fdc/icca/icca0603.htm
Quote:"7-piece endgames exceed the computacional and storage
capabilities of today´s computers."       JAFM



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.