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Subject: Re: Thx for the Input ... Follow up here

Author: Dan Homan

Date: 14:28:44 03/21/00

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On March 21, 2000 at 17:07:47, Georg v. Zimmermann wrote:

>Thanks a lot for your very helpfull replies, guys. I read them a couple of times
>and would like to comment on some things :
>
>----
>
>1.) The "you only changed a small amount of the code" point
>
>> This may not be a good example, but....  Let's say you wanted to translate the
>> Bible but since the King James version was so good you decided just to do
>> orginal translation of about the 5 per cent you thought needed clarity. Now,
>> could you say it was your translation or just a modification? (Jay Rinde)
>
>> I may try some 'rule of thumb' here: If you wrote more, than, say, 50% of code
>> yourself, and the rest is based on some open source, you could say "[my
>> program], based (originated) on [that program]". (Andrew Dados)
>
>Ok but If I look at cars in the streets they are named "BMW" and "Nissan" and
>"GM" and "Ford" and not "A Benz with some modifications by BMW" or "A Benz with
>some modifications by Ford" even though Benz invented the automobile and the
>basic concepts are still the same ?
>
>Is there really a big difference between using someone elses code (if you
>understand it completely - good point "Werner") and rewriting it - "stealing"
>only the idea ? Dann Corbit says so, maybe you can explain why you say that ?
>
>----
>
>2.) You might want to ask yourself: does the program NEED a different name ?
>(GCP)
>
>Yes, because it plays in a completely different style! And when it plays matches
>against the original it makes sense to have a different name, yes ?
>
>----
>
>3.) About the Open Source Concept
>
>> I'm not trying to say there is anything wrong with having a competitive
>> element. But if it's that what you are interested in, Open Sourcing the
>> program (I assume you're actually talking about GPL'ed software ?) is
>> definetely NOT the way to go. (GCP)
>
>I think I'm not the only one who plans to release "his" program one day, but who
>first wants to see how it does against the competition, and prove that they
>accomplished something, maybe invented something new. I believe IMHO that this
>is a normal human behaviour ?
>
>
>> However, there is another issue for you to consider.  By starting
>> your project from a GPL program, your modified version is also GPL.  This
>> means that if you ever give your version away (or sell it) to
>> the public, you must make the source code of your version available
>> to the public. (Dann Homan)
>
>Hmm.. one more question: can the the author of the original make a "special" non
>GPL version of his program for me so that I don't have to release the source if
>I give the modified program to people ?

I think this would be fine, if the original author(s) were willing to do
this.

 - Dan


>
>----
>
>4.) 3 more words.
>
>I don't want to be understood wrong. I'm not planning to do as if I had done all
>the work. I would never even consider this because the originals authour is a
>real NICE guys who helped me a lot and was always been very patient even though
>I'm a very poor programmer.
>
>
>Thanks again for all the input,
>
>Georg



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