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Subject: Re: A thank you to all computer chess programmers

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 12:18:42 03/23/00

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On March 23, 2000 at 13:57:21, Fernando Villegas wrote:

>On March 23, 2000 at 12:49:36, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On March 23, 2000 at 12:07:07, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>
>>>On March 23, 2000 at 02:05:50, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 22, 2000 at 18:52:20, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 22, 2000 at 13:35:28, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On March 22, 2000 at 09:38:37, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dan:
>>>>>>>Each time I see you writting this kind of funny stuff, I feel this site is
>>>>>>>getting better and more mature, more pleasant, more relaxed. I hope nobody will
>>>>>>>have the silly idea to separate these things from chess things in a second,
>>>>>>>different board because of a fundamentalist definition of this place as a sheer
>>>>>>>"computer chess place". It is in the mix where the kick is. Pity that some heavy
>>>>>>>squared heads does not understand that, but as much they does not ask for a
>>>>>>>crusade againts lawbreakers, all is fine.
>>>>>>>With LOL
>>>>>>>Fernando
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not exactly sure what you're attempting to accomplish with this message.
>>>>>>Speaking for myself only, it manages to appear simultaneously complimentary and,
>>>>>>well, uncomplimentary.  Presumably I am misinterpreting it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave:
>>>>>It is completely complimentary. If you think there is something else, you are
>>>>>wrong. Just remember I am not english fluent and so, sometimes, I miss the
>>>>>subtilities of this fine idiom. Or it is said "language"? So I was just trying
>>>>>to say thanks for a well written and funny piece of fiction.
>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>Fernando
>>>>
>>>>I'll take the time to point out a few adjectives that in the context of your
>>>>message appeared as uncomplimentary to me, so that the next time you intend to
>>>>say something completely complimentary, it stands a better chance of coming out
>>>>that way.
>>>>
>>>>    - silly
>>>>    - fundamentalist
>>>>    - heavy squared
>>>>
>>>>The next time you encounter a situation where someone in a position of group
>>>>responsibility is doing their best (and mostly, I think, succeeding) to act in a
>>>>way that is palatable to the group, as opposed to their personal preference, you
>>>>might refrain from poking them in the eye with a stick.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>>Dave:
>>>So you feel I did that? So I must refrain to express my thanks in an indirect
>>>way due to the likelihood some adjetive is not exactly the one you want? Cannot
>>>you believe just in the intention and good will of a message, as told by the
>>>poster? Are you going to do a semantic scan of any sentence looking for not
>>>adequate words according USA usage? I will tell you more: I was out of the city
>>>- we have summer and vanacnces in february in my country- when election of
>>>moderators was done and until this very day I did not try to know whom were the
>>>winnin guys. So yoiu was one of them? Congratulations. Do not worry: I will drop
>>>my unconscious stick and let your eyes in good health from now on.
>>>Come on, David, I was and I am just trying to me amiable and nice. Forgive me; I
>>>am not an USA or British citizen, just a second world spanish speaker.
>>>Hasta la vista amigo
>>>Fernando
>>
>>You said that your message was intended to be completely complimentary.  Will
>>said "bs" (= bullshit).  I agreed, because while you complimented Dann you took
>>a swipe at people who don't agree with you on how the place should be moderated.
>>I think your English is good enough that you understand this.  If it wasn't, you
>>wouldn't have referred to 'heavy squared heads' in the first place.
>>
>>It was completely possible for you to express pleasure with Dann's post without
>>taking a swipe at anybody.  I think you just chose not to.  But if you want to
>>insist that it wasn't intended, fine, I'll take that at face value.
>>
>>Dave
>
>Dave:
>I am glad you will take it that way. With "square heads" and the rest I was not
>trying to imply nobody here in the site. Just a general word, just in case. Kind
>of zoological clasification without But yes, now I see somebody could feel I was
>trying to begin a war or something behind the cover of a compliment. It was not
>so, believe me. I am fed up with wars, like you and every one else, even with
>those that are not mine. Any case the comment by this young boy, Will, was
>completely useful; nobody asked his opinion but nevertheless he run at once to
>put in action his petty battery of guns, although I recognize he just shot a
>little caliber bullet. Buit even so clearly HE was trying intentionally to be
>rude under some light cover. Oh, what a sharp mind: BS instead of bullshit. Have
>you told him so? As you must suppose what I meant, he just did his vicious
>little attack without provocation, at will. Besides, you maybe should tell him
>not to use special ortography for expressions that not neccesarily are of common
>knowledge for people not living in your country. If he thinks what I have said
>is bullshit, tell the guy to say it straight. You did it straight. I can also
>say some spanish words -straight or not- about people, but that would be unfair.
>By example, the word "huevón". Do not try to know what it means. You does not
>have even the accents we use. So no translation available. And just a zoological
>class.
>Fernando

I don't think Will was trying to hide behind an acronym.  People actually say
"BS" instead of "bullshit" quite frequently... it's not just an internet
abbreviation.

Anyway, I think this thread is overly long already, so I'll stop here.

Dave



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