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Subject: Re: Junior and Fritz identical?

Author: Gordon Rattray

Date: 12:25:37 03/24/00

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On March 24, 2000 at 14:16:40, Pete Galati wrote:

>On March 24, 2000 at 13:39:34, Gordon Rattray wrote:
>
>>On March 24, 2000 at 10:58:06, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>>
>>>On March 24, 2000 at 10:46:36, Eric Fitch wrote:
>>>
>>>>I understood that Fritz 6 and Junior 6 were identical programs with the only
>>>>obvious exception being the engines, e.g. both had the 320,000 game database
>>>>etc. In ICD's description of Junior 6, there is no mention of the database
>>>>however. Is this a difference or an omission?
>>>
>>>Eric,
>>>
>>>The "engine" is the chess program.  They play differently and Fritz is better at
>>>faster time controls.  Repeat........ They are two distinct programs.
>>>They do have the same "Chessbase" interface.  They both use EGTBs and can use
>>>the same opening books.
>>>
>>>Tim Frohlick
>>
>>Why didn't Bruce Moreland or Tim Frohlick answer the question being asked?
>>
>>Instead it comes down to a discussion of what the word "program" means.  Some
>>people view it from an engine viewpoint.  Others look at the GUI, i.e. screen
>>layout, menu options, etc.  Considering Eric Fitch mentions "the only obvious
>>exception being the engines" I would infer he is referring to the GUI and its
>>functions when he uses the word "program".  Although Tim says that the interface
>>is the same, he also says that they are two distinct programs.  So, aside from
>>the engines how are they distinct?  Bruce also says that they are not the same
>>program?  What's the difference then?  Remember, the engine difference has
>>already been acknowledged.
>>
>>Anyway, Eric, I'll check my Junior 6 CD to see if the database is on it.  Maybe
>>somebody can answer in the meantime, otherwise I will as soon as possible.
>>
>>cheers
>>Gordon
>
>I think there was probably an implied question.  The original post sounds a bit
>unclear because he says that "I understood that Fritz 6 and Junior 6 were
>identical programs...." ok, this isn't true, the Chessbase interfaces very
>seldom change all that much from engine to engine, but of course the heart of
>the Fritz interface is very clearly different than the heart of the Junior
>program.
>
>Any given year, just assume that the database included will be the same.
>
>Pete

I've now checked.  The Junior 6 CD has a 320,000 game database.  So, the ICD
description must have had an ommission.

Gordon



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