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Subject: Re: Computer Help (please)

Author: Laurence Chen

Date: 19:39:28 03/24/00

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On March 24, 2000 at 21:38:57, Wayne Lowrance wrote:

>Forgive me, this is mostly off topic. I need help/advise. Thank you.
>
>Topic 1) Probobly discussed by Dr. Bob Hyatt humpteen times, but i cannot find
>the archives here. I can afford to buy 1 more computer in my life time (I just
>turned 70 and my family already thinks I am off base, after all they say You do
>have a 400 mhz pentium 256 mb ram etc etc.) but I want one more computer
>upgrade. I am weighing my option of a dual at say 500 mhz (celeron I guess)
>verses a 750 mhz PIII. I was hot to trot for a Athlon 800, but posts here and a
>visit to my favorite computer systems house discouraged me on the Athylon. They
>(the system house)will no longer sell systems incorporating the Athlon 800
>because of temperature problems. (for now at least)
>
>If I remember what Dr. Bob has stated here before, crafty ( I guess Jr as well)
>play around 75 percent for dual's. So that puts a dual to the equivalent (chess
>equivalent) of 750 mhz, comparing identical with the single pentium III. Am I
>correct ?
>
>So to the point: The following system was quoted to me: and I have a few
>questions in this regard.
>
>CPU-------------- Pentium III 750D--------(Cyber III-750) what is that mean ?
>         133 MHz AGP VIA   Is that good ? Is this the coppermine thing ?
>
>         256k advance transfer cache.   Is that the same as L2 Pipeline if not
>         Which is better for chess.
>
>         256 MB PC 133 SDRAM
>
>Hard drive-------10 GB UA66 7200 RPM
>
>CD-ROM/DVD-------8x DVD/CD-ROM
>
>Video RAM--------32 MB ATI EXP 2000 AGP/D
>
>Fax/Modem--------56k Diamond V.90
>
>Sound System-----Yamaha Audio PCI 64 Voice
>
>The rest is keyboard, mouse, windows 98 operating system and 250 Watt Power andh
>a 5 year parts & labor guarantee for the system.
>
>my cost---------$1,614.00 Plus tax.
>
>What you all think ?
>
>
>Topic 2) For Amir Ban and Dr Bob if they had the interest of reading my post and
>are willing to respond, briefly if they wish and if they dont have data, please
>make your best guess. Other opinions are very worth while to me as well.
>
>Crafty: How would you compare the performance of crafty in the above computer as
>compared with 500 mhz dual cpu's.
>
>Junior6: Same question, how would you compare the performance of Deep Jr with a
>dual 500 mhz cpu's against Junior6 in the above computer system.
>
>
>Lastly (at last you say) Any suggestions as to a better computer system in that
>price range or something close (very) to it.
>
>Whoops, PS: The graphic accelerator 3d capability is very important for apps
>running Flight Simulator 2000 etc. Is the above one excellent for this app.
>
>I am done
>
>Thanks for all especially if you got this Far
1. If it is an Intel CPU then it is a Coppermine, any Intel CPU 650 MHz and
above is a Coppermine chip.
The 256 Cache is an on-die built in cache, and although it is only half of the
512 Cache, but it is clocked twice as fast than the 512 Cache.  Besides
coppermine chips only comes with 256K cache.
The VIA Chipset is much better than the i820 chipset because it provides a much
cheaper price using SDRAM, unless you can afford the RDRAM for the i820.
AS for the Video Card, I personnally don't like ATI video cards.  Also if you
plan to run Windows 2000 make sure that the card is compatible with Windows
2000, some ATI video cards won't support Windows 2000.
2. I don't think that dual Celerons are as good as a dual Pentium Xeon or a
single Pentium III running at the equivalent clock speed which the dual Celerons
run.  I believe that the problem is that Windows NT does not like Celeron
processors that much.  Remember that in order to run of a dual processor
computer you must run Windows NT 4.0 or Windows 2000.
Hope this helps.
Laurence



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