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Subject: Re: Triple a-pawn and wrong bishop

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:17:00 03/27/00

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On March 27, 2000 at 15:02:03, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On March 27, 2000 at 01:28:15, Kai Skibbe wrote:
>
>>Crafty 17.07 has special code for detecting rookpawns and wrong bishop.
>>But in the following position Crafty evaluates the position with a positive
>>score.
>>Why is the score of Crafty positive ?
>>I have tested the position with the fritzengine of Crafty 17.07 with 32MB
>>hashtables on a Celeron 500MHz and no tablebases. BTW with only two pawns on
>>a-file Crafty shows a drawscore.
>>
>>[D]k7/8/P7/P7/P7/8/1K6/B7 w - - 0 1
>
>Actually, it is a little bit funny.  Crafty drops the evaluation back to zero as
>it sees the pawn eaten.  Then it gets its hopes up for the next pawn, and sees
>it eaten.  Finally, on the third pawn, it got its hopes up again, but I was not
>patient enough to see them dashed again.
>
>Crafty v17.10
>
>White(1): epdpfga epd.epd epd.out
>PFGA: EPD record: 1
>              time surplus   0.00  time limit 16:39 (16:39)
>         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
>               13->   0.31   1.56   1. Kb3 Ka7 2. Bd4+ Kxa6 3. Kb4 Kb7
>                                    4. Kb5 Ka8 5. a6 Kb8
>               14     0.44     --   1. Kb3
>               14     0.46     ++   1. Kb3!!
>               14     0.68   0.00   1. Kb3 Ka7 2. Kb4 Kxa6 3. Bd4 Kb7 4.
>                                    Kb5 Ka8 5. a6 Kb8 6. a5 Ka8 7. a7 Kb7
>                                    8. a8=R Kxa8
>               14->   0.87   0.00   1. Kb3 Ka7 2. Kb4 Kxa6 3. Bd4 Kb7 4.
>                                    Kb5 Ka8 5. a6 Kb8 6. a5 Ka8 7. a7 Kb7
>                                    8. a8=R Kxa8
>               15     0.88     ++   1. Kb3!!
>               15->   1.15   0.39   1. Kb3 Ka7 2. Kb4 Kxa6 3. Bd4 Kb7 4.
>                                    Kb5 Ka8 5. a6 Kb8 6. a5 Ka8 7. a7 Kb7
>                                    8. a8=R Kxa8
>               16     1.16     ++   1. Kb3!!
>               16->   1.42   0.78   1. Kb3 Ka7 2. Kb4 Kxa6 3. Bd4 Kb7 4.
>                                    Kb5 Ka8 5. a6 Kb8 6. a5 Ka8 7. a7 Kb7
>                                    8. a8=R Kxa8
>               17     1.65     ++   1. Kb3!!
>               17->   1.93   1.17   1. Kb3 Ka7 2. Kb4 Kxa6 3. Bd4 Kb7 4.
>                                    Kb5 Ka8 5. a6 Kb8 6. a5 Ka8 7. a7 Kb7
>                                    8. a8=R Kxa8
>               18     1.95     ++   1. Kb3!!
>               18->   2.25   1.56   1. Kb3 Ka7 2. Kb4 Kxa6 3. Bd4 Kb7 4.
>                                    Kb5 Ka8 5. a6 Kb8 6. a5 Ka8 7. a7 Kb7
>                                    8. a8=R Kxa8
>               19     2.86     ++   1. Kb3!!
>               19->   3.13   1.95   1. Kb3 Ka7 2. Kb4 Kxa6 3. Bd4 Kb7 4.
>                                    Kb5 Ka8 5. a6 Kb8 6. a5 Ka8 7. a7 Kb7
>                                    8. a8=R Kxa8
>               20     3.53     ++   1. Kb3!!
>               20->   3.77   2.34   1. Kb3 Ka7 2. Kb4 Kxa6 3. Bd4 Kb7 4.
>                                    Kb5 Ka8 5. a6 Kb8 6. a5 Ka8 7. a7 Kb7
>                                    8. a8=R Kxa8
>               21     4.19     ++   1. Kb3!!
>               21->   4.46   2.73   1. Kb3 Ka7 2. Kb4 Kxa6 3. Bd4 Kb7 4.
>                                    Kb5 Ka8 5. a6 Kb8 6. a5 Ka8 7. a7 Kb7
>                                    8. a8=R Kxa8
>               22     5.25     --   1. Kb3
>               22     7.85   0.00   1. Kb3 Ka7 2. Kb4 Kxa6 3. Bd4 Kb7 4.
>                                    Kb5 Ka8 5. a6 Kb8 6. a5 Ka8 7. a7 Kb7
>                                    8. a8=R Kxa8 <HT>
>               22->   8.29   0.00   1. Kb3 Ka7 2. Kb4 Kxa6 3. Bd4 Kb7 4.
>                                    Kb5 Ka8 5. a6 Kb8 6. a5 Ka8 7. a7 Kb7
>                                    8. a8=R Kxa8 <HT>
>               23     8.31     ++   1. Kb3!!
>               23->   6:50   0.39   1. Kb3 Ka7 2. Kb4 Kxa6 3. Bd4 Kb7 4.
>                                    Kb5 Ka8 5. a6 Kb8 6. a5 Ka8 7. a7 Kb7
>                                    8. a8=R Kxa8 <HT>
>               24     6:50     ++   1. Kb3!!
>              time=7:22  cpu=99%  mat=6  n=100206329  fh=99%  nps=226230
>              ext-> checks=16150019 recaps=0 pawns=151201 1rep=968509 thrt:0
>              predicted=0  nodes=100206329  evals=96649
>              endgame tablebase-> probes done=11330  successful=11330


This is caused by the bishop 'leaving'.  It found a way to sac the bishop,
and since you don't have even simple databases like kpk, it won't realize that
the resulting ending is a dead draw...

I don't get that odd behavior at all here, with databases turned on...



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