Author: Dave Gomboc
Date: 19:52:36 03/28/00
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On March 27, 2000 at 11:41:15, Christophe Theron wrote: >On March 27, 2000 at 02:08:44, Tina Long wrote: > >>On March 26, 2000 at 11:45:38, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On March 25, 2000 at 23:13:49, Tina Long wrote: >>> >>>>On March 25, 2000 at 14:28:13, James Robertson wrote: >>>> >>>>>On March 25, 2000 at 13:41:28, Roger wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Would tablebases for Tiger have changed this result at all? >>>>>> >>>>>>Roger >>>>> >>>>>Maybe a quarter of a point.... My experience with tablebases is that if the >>>>>program is moderately smart it doesn't benefit tremendously from them. >>>>> >>>>>James >>>>> >>>>Ed Schroder said about 6 months ago that Tablebases were worth about 10 points >>>>on the SSDF scale. >>>> >>>>I'm 70% sure he said that! I'm 100% sure that Ed said once that something was >>>>worth very little rating points. >>>> >>>>I'm glad I could add some real detail to this discussion. >>>> >>>>Tina Long >>> >>> >>>As far as I know, endgames are not Tiger's weak point. >>> >>>One thing I'm sure about: as far as playing strength is the subject, I have a >>>long list of ideas that, in my opinion, will give much more than tablebases. >>> >>>It does not matter if tablebases are easy to implement or not (they are not, >>>unless you want to do it the dirty way, and I won't), I don't see the point in >>>working on this before I fix more important things. >> >> >>Good, I think you should work on whatever gives you the most performance >>improvement per working hour. I also think you should get the main ideas >>implimented and tested before Sept. 15 2000. Test & promote heavily through >>October. Top the December 12 SSDF list by 7 clear points (+-50). And get the >>next version out in time to beat Christmas. > > >Yes. I'm working hard on these 7 elo points. :) > >This year I hope we will be on time. I'll try to have a version ready to be >released all the time. So if Ed calls me and say: "we want the new engine now", >I can send him immediately the bloody DLL. > > > > >>And I should know, because today I'm an opinionated bitch on Rum. > > >We produce rum here in Guadeloupe (because we produce sugar cane). But I swear >no rum has been involved in the making of the Chess Tiger engine. Well... Almost >no rum. > > > >>Ha, No computer program has EVER resorted to tablebases to Soundly Flog me. > > >The same for me. Are you ready to fill your hard disk with 1Gb endgame >databases? Or maybe you prefer to fill these 1Gb with the new screen saver from >Microsoft? > > > > Christophe Maybe the screen saver could walk through random mates in 240+ moves, combining the best of both ideas. ;-) Dave
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