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Subject: Re: How long does your program take to avoid Qxc2 (funnier still)

Author: Chessfun

Date: 14:29:50 03/31/00

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On March 31, 2000 at 17:20:47, Chessfun wrote:

>On March 31, 2000 at 17:09:02, John Stanback wrote:
>
>>On March 31, 2000 at 16:23:24, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>This position came up in my tourney.
>>>Nimzo to play played Qxc2?? and resigned 5 moves later.
>>>How long does your program take to avoid taking the pawn?.
>>>
>>>MCP 8 is in book with 15. either Bc1 or Qc1 since Qc1 leads to
>>>black thinking it is winning seems the best move. This Qc1 should
>>>be in every book as the best move in this variation.
>>>
>>>[D]r3kb1r/2q2ppp/p2p4/1p1PpP2/8/4Q3/PPP1N1PP/R4RK1 b kq - 0 17
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>On a P2-300 Zarkov sees the score for Qxc2 drop after about 12
>>seconds, but the search goes bananas and it takes over 2 minutes
>>to find Be7.
>>
>>00:01.0    37760  6>    99  Qxc2 b4 Be7 a3 O-O
>>00:01.1    42240  6     73  Qxc2 b4 Be7 Nc3 Qb2 Rab1 Qc2
>>00:01.2    43777  7>    73  Qxc2 b4 Be7 Nc3 Qb2 Rab1 Qc2
>>00:02.5    87808  7     71  Qxc2 Rac1 Qxb2 Qb6 Rd8 Qc6+ Rd7 Rc2 Qa3 Qc8+ Rd8
>>00:03.3   117346  8>    71  Qxc2 Rac1 Qxb2 Qb6 Rd8 Qc6+ Rd7 Rc2 Qa3 Qc8+ Rd8
>>00:09.6   352768  8     70  Qxc2 Rac1 Qxb2 Qb6 Rd8 Qc6+ Rd7 Qc8+ Ke7 Rc2 Qa3
>>00:10.7   388114  9>    70  Qxc2 Rac1 Qxb2 Qb6 Rd8 Qc6+ Rd7 Qc8+ Ke7 Rc2 Qa3
>>00:12.3   451072  9     12  Qxc2 Rac1 Qxb2 Qb6 Rd8 Qc6+ Rd7 Qc8+ Ke7 Rc2 Qa3
>>00:18.0   647680  9      0  Qxc2 Rac1 Qxb2 Qb6 Rd8 Qc6+ Rd7 Qc8+ Ke7 f6+ gxf6
>>02:08.8  4139264  9      6  Be7 c3 Qc4 Qf3 O-O <HT>
>>05:44.6 11025969 10>     6  Be7 c3 Qc4 Qf3 O-O <HT>
>>
>>John
>
>Which version of Zarkov.
>I get 2 min 4 secs and it plays Qc5 on Zarkov 5 on cel 433.
>
>Following is F6a
>MCP 8 - Nimzo 7.32
>r3kb1r/2q2ppp/p2p4/1p1PpP2/8/4Q3/PPP1N1PP/R4RK1 b kq - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Fritz 6:
>17...Qxc2 18.b4 Be7 19.Nc3 0-0 20.Rac1 Qb2 21.Qe4 Rac8
>  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 9/22   00:00:01  377kN
>17...Qxc2 18.b4 Be7 19.Nc3 0-0 20.Rf2 Bg5 21.Qg3 Bd2 22.f6
>  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 10/26   00:00:03  733kN
>17...Qxc2 18.Rac1 Qxb2 19.Qb6 Rd8 20.Qc6+ Ke7 21.f6+ gxf6
>  =  (-0.13)   Depth: 11/27   00:00:11  2799kN
>17...Qxc2 18.Rac1 Qxb2 19.Qb6 Rd8 20.Qc6+ Ke7 21.f6+ gxf6 22.Ng3
>  =  (-0.13)   Depth: 12/30   00:00:39  9760kN
>17...Qxc2 18.Rac1 Qxb2 19.Qb6 Rd8 20.Qc6+ Ke7 21.f6+ gxf6 22.Ng3
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 13/31   00:01:40  24728kN
>17...Be7
>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 13/32   00:02:10  32862kN
>
>(Bird, Scarb 31.03.2000)
>
>Thanks

What seems funniest is now I analyize with Nimzo 7.32 and it
don't play it?? after 5 minutes?

MCP 8 - Nimzo 7.32
r3kb1r/2q2ppp/p2p4/1p1PpP2/8/4Q3/PPP1N1PP/R4RK1 b kq - 0 1

Analysis by Nimzo 7.32:

17...Qxc2 18.Rac1 Qxb2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 6/19   00:00:01  31kN
17...Qa7
  =  (-0.01)   Depth: 6/19   00:00:01  31kN
17...Qa7 18.Qxa7 Rxa7 19.g4 Be7 20.c3 Bf6
  =  (-0.05)   Depth: 6/19   00:00:01  31kN
17...Rc8
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 6/19   00:00:01  31kN
17...Rc8 18.b4 Qc4 19.c3 Qxd5 20.Nd4
  =  (-0.13)   Depth: 6/19   00:00:01  31kN
17...Rc8 18.Kh1 Qc4 19.Qxe5+ dxe5 20.b3
  =  (-0.20)   Depth: 7/20   00:00:02  228kN
17...Rc8 18.c3 Qc5 19.Qxc5 Rxc5 20.Rad1 Be7 21.g4 Bf6
  ³  (-0.30)   Depth: 8/22   00:00:03  411kN
17...Rc8 18.c3 Qc5 19.Qxc5 Rxc5 20.Rad1 Be7 21.g4 Bf6 22.h3
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 9/23   00:00:06  1139kN
17...Qc4
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 9/23   00:00:17  4134kN
17...Rc8 18.c3 Qc5 19.Qxc5 Rxc5 20.Rad1 Be7 21.g4 Bf6 22.h3
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 9/23   00:00:19  4686kN
17...Rc8 18.c3 Qc5 19.Qxc5 Rxc5 20.Rad1 Be7 21.g4 a5 22.h3 Bf6
  ³  (-0.27)   Depth: 10/25   00:00:30  7589kN
17...Rc8 18.a4 Qc5 19.Qxc5 Rxc5 20.axb5 axb5 21.Ra8+ Ke7 22.f6+ gxf6
  =  (-0.21)   Depth: 11/26   00:01:18  19493kN

(Bird, Scarb 31.03.2000)

Thanks



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