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Subject: Re: tablebases Fritz problem

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 21:26:03 04/03/00

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On April 03, 2000 at 14:15:16, blass uri wrote:

>On April 03, 2000 at 13:51:13, Tony Hedlund wrote:
>
>>[Event "120'/40+60'/20+60'20"]
>>[Site "SSDF"]
>>[Date "2000.04.03"]
>>[Round "23"]
>>[White "Fritz 6 AMD K6-2 450"]
>>[Black "Junior 6 AMD K6-2 450"]
>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>[ECO "E32"]
>>[BlackElo "2706"]
>>[Annotator "Tony Hedlund"]
>>[PlyCount "199"]
>>[EventDate "2000.03.25"]
>>
>>{96MB, general.ctg. AMD K6-2 450
>>} 1. d4 {0} 1... Nf6 {0} 2. c4 {0} 2... e6 {0
>>} 3. Nc3 {0} 3... Bb4 {0} 4. Qc2 {0} 4... O-O {0} 5. a3 {0} 5... Bxc3+ {0} 6.
>>Qxc3 {0} 6... b6 {0} 7. Bg5 {0} 7... Bb7 {0} 8. f3 {0} 8... h6 {0} 9. Bh4 {0}
>>9... d5 {0} 10. e3 {0} 10... Nbd7 {0} 11. cxd5 {0} 11... Nxd5 {0} 12. Bxd8 {0}
>>12... Nxc3 {0} 13. Bh4 {0} 13... Nd5 {0} 14. Bf2 {0} 14... f5 {0} 15. Bb5 {0}
>>15... c6 {0} 16. Ba4 {0} 16... e5 {259} 17. Ne2 {0} 17... Rae8 {0} 18. O-O {0}
>>18... e4 {last book move 195} 19. fxe4 {0.06/14 491} 19... fxe4 {258} 20. Nc3 {
>>0.03/14 235} 20... N7f6 {295} 21. Nxd5 {0.09/14 27} 21... Nxd5 {151} 22. Rac1 {
>>0.13/16 594} 22... Rf6 {2} 23. Rfe1 {0.34/15 229} 23... Rfe6 {326} 24. Bg3 {
>>0.38/16 0} 24... a5 {256} 25. Bc2 {0.38/15 265} 25... Kh8 {312} 26. Be5 {
>>0.53/15 228} 26... Nf6 {65} 27. b4 {0.59/15 589} 27... Nd7 {361} 28. Bg3 {
>>0.63/15 339} 28... axb4 {2} 29. axb4 {0.66/16 541} 29... Nf6 {577} 30. Be5 {
>>0.63/17 0} 30... Nd7 {452} 31. Bxe4 {0.59/16 669} 31... Nxe5 {2} 32. dxe5 {
>>0.69/16 183} 32... Rb8 {569} 33. Re2 {0.53/17 0} 33... Kg8 {243} 34. Kf2 {
>>0.47/16 690} 34... Rf8+ {243} 35. Kg3 {0.53/16 376} 35... Rxe5 {148} 36. Bxc6 {
>>0.50/15 69} 36... Rg5+ {722} 37. Kh4 {0.53/17 0} 37... Rc8 {459} 38. Rec2 {
>>0.50/17 0} 38... Bxc6 {290} 39. Rxc6 {0.53/16 0} 39... Re8 {361} 40. Rc8 {
>>0.47/16 0} 40... Rge5 {340} 41. g4 {0.53/17 0} 41... Rxe3 {246} 42. Rxe8+ {
>>0.59/18 0} 42... Rxe8 {52} 43. Rc6 {0.66/18 656} 43... b5 {5} 44. Rc5 {
>>0.66/17 323} 44... Rb8 {30} 45. g5 {0.63/17 158} 45... Rb6 {124} 46. Kg4 {
>>0.59/17 197} 46... Kf7 {168} 47. h4 {0.78/16 193} 47... hxg5 {189} 48. h5 {
>>0.78/17 1} 48... Ke6 {133} 49. Kxg5 {0.84/17 48} 49... Kf7 {123} 50. Rd5 {
>>0.88/18 607} 50... Rb8 {236} 51. Rd7+ {1.03/17 232} 51... Kf8 {207} 52. Rd6 {
>>1.13/18 401} 52... Kf7 {160} 53. Rc6 {0.84/18 167} 53... Rb7 {189} 54. Kf5 {
>>1.59/18 413} 54... Rd7 {10} 55. Ke5 {1.56/16 201} 55... Re7+ {474} 56. Kd5 {
>>1.63/16 144} 56... Re1 {739} 57. Rc5 {1.72/18 3} 57... Rb1 {148} 58. Rxb5 {
>>1.72/16 1} 58... Kf6 {316} 59. Kc4 {1.91/17 1} 59... Rc1+ {112} 60. Kb3 {
>>1.78/16 171} 60... Rb1+ {7} 61. Kc2 {1.91/16 220} 61... Rf1 {178} 62. Rc5 {
>>2.00/16 225} 62... Ke7 {8} 63. b5 {2.00/15 196} 63... Kd6 {54} 64. Rc6+ {
>>2.00/15 212} 64... Kd7 {302} 65. Rg6 {2.09/16 43} 65... Rf7 {190} 66. Kd3 {
>>2.09/17 1} 66... Kc8 {278} 67. Ke4 {2.72/17 135} 67... Kb7 {281} 68. Ke5 {
>>2.38/17 241} 68... Rc7 {74} 69. Rg5 {2.44/16 50} 69... Kb6 {276} 70. Ke6 {
>>2.41/17 1} 70... Ka5 {156} 71. Rd5 {3.00/16 187} 71... Kb6 {17} 72. Kf5 {
>>3.88/17 184} 72... Ra7 {259} 73. Kg6 {3.63/17 421} 73... Re7 {10} 74. Rf5 {
>>3.94/16 140} 74... Rd7 {217} 75. Rf7 {4.47/18 1} 75... Rd5 {222} 76. Rxg7 {
>>4.94/18 1} 76... Rd6+ {219} 77. Kh7 {7.81/17 0} 77... Rd1 {447} 78. Rg6+ {
>>10.91/15 126} 78... Kc5 {309} 79. b6 {14.25/13 48} 79... Rb1 {132} 80. b7 {
>>#37/11 53} 80... Rxb7+ {178} 81. Rg7 {#27/1 1} 81... Rb6 {1} 82. h6 {#26/1 0}
>>82... Kd5 {0} 83. Re7 {#25/1 0} 83... Rc6 {0} 84. Kg7 {#24/1 0} 84... Rc2 {0}
>>85. h7 {#23/1 0} 85... Rg2+ {0} 86. Kf8 {#22/1 0} 86... Rh2 {0} 87. Rd7+ {
>>#21/4 0} 87... Kc6 {0} 88. Rg7 {#20/5 0} 88... Kd5 {0} 89. Rg5+ {#19/4 0} 89...
>>Ke4 {0} 90. Rg4+ {#22/4 0} 90... Kf5 {0} 91. Rg7 {#21/5 0} 91... Rc2 {0} 92.
>>Rf7+ {#32/4 0} 92... Kg6 {0} 93. Rg7+ {#31/4 0} 93... Kf6 {0} 94. Rf7+ {#32/4 0
>>} 94... Kg6 {0} 95. h8=Q {0.00/25 1151} 95... Rc8+ {110} 96. Ke7 {0.00/21 0}
>>96... Rxh8 {130} 97. Rf6+ {0.00/1 0} 97... Kg5 {0} 98. Rd6 {0.00/1 0} 98... Rh6
>>{0} 99. Rd8 {0.00/1 0} 99... Rh2 {0} 100. Rg8+ {0.00/1 1} 1/2-1/2
>
>
>I read that the tablebases are productive for fritz,Junior and shredder and
>gives them at least 20 elo rating.
>
>This game did not convince me
>
>Fritz missed a win because of tablebases.
>I do not understand the reason that the ssdf gives Fritz the KRP vs KR
>tablebases without giving it the KRQ vs KR tablebases.
>
>Is the memory in the harddisk too small?
>
>Uri

It is what I always say: If someone uses TB, then use ALL TBs and you won't see
such games.

I wouldn't spend a penny for the "Endgame-Turbo-CDs" because they are not
complete and missing some very important TBs as is proven now in the game above.

Such games happen from time to time and everyone who notices them complains
about TB access and so on but this is not the right address to complain.




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