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Subject: Re: White to Mate in 37 or less.

Author: Bernhard Bauer

Date: 01:27:16 04/06/00

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On April 04, 2000 at 18:27:01, José Antônio Fabiano Mendes wrote:

>On April 02, 2000 at 19:13:36, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>
>>[D]8/3qk3/8/8/3NN3/2N2N2/8/4K3 w
>>
>>
>>Both Rebel 10c and Hiarcs 7.32 choose K to e2.  Rebel solves it in 37 moves and
>>Hiarcs takes 24 moves.
>>
>>I guess that most of us will never see this position in over-the-board play.  I
>>have not seen it as a chess puzzle but I am sure that somebody did this in the
>>past.  I do not think that it is solvable unless the white king comes into play.
>>
>>
>>Have fun.
>>
>>
>>Tim Frohlick
>
>     A.A.Troitzky[Chess Studies,1937(page 126)]
>[D]2k5/8/3KN3/2NNN3/8/8/3q4/8 w - -
>Troitzky puts this position forward as a standard one for
>forcing a win with four knights against a queen.He writes,
>"The win is achieved by moving the whole position to the
>left."This is the method wherever the black queen is
>situated and provided the black king is on a7,a8,b8 or c8.
>Source:"Test Tube Chess",A.J.Roycroft,1972,page 214,Stackpole Books

MyCrafty gives a mate in 10

         (4)   13->   1:29  11.31   1. Nc4 Qh2+ 2. Kc6 Kb8 3. Nd4 Qh3 4.
                                    Ncb6 Qh7 5. Ncd7+ Qxd7+ 6. Kxd7 Ka7
                                    7. Kc8 Ka6 8. Nc4 <HT>
               14     1:48     ++   1. Nc4!!
         (3)   14     5:12  Mat11   1. Nc4 Qh2+ 2. Kc6 Kb8 3. Nd6 Qc2 4.
                                    Nb4 Qh7 5. Nba6+ Ka7 6. Nc8+ Ka8 7.
                                    Nec7+ Qxc7+ 8. Nxc7+ Kb8 9. Nb6 Ka7
                                    10. Nb5+ Kb8 11. Ncd7# <HT>
               14->   6:03  Mat11   1. Nc4 Qh2+ 2. Kc6 Kb8 3. Nd6 Qc2 4.
                                    Nb4 Qh7 5. Nba6+ Ka7 6. Nc8+ Ka8 7.
                                    Nec7+ Qxc7+ 8. Nxc7+ Kb8 9. Nb6 Ka7
                                    10. Nb5+ Kb8 11. Ncd7# <HT>
               15     7:30  Mat10   1. Nc4 Qh2+ 2. Kc6 Kb8 3. Nd6 Qc2 4.
                                    Nb4 Qh7 5. Nd7+ Qxd7+ 6. Kxd7 Ka7 7.
                                    Kc6 Kb8 8. Kb6 Ka8 9. Nc7+ Kb8 10.
                                    Nc6#
         (2)   15->  10:39  Mat10   1. Nc4 Qh2+ 2. Kc6 Kb8 3. Nd6 Qc2 4.
                                    Nb4 Qh7 5. Nd7+ Qxd7+ 6. Kxd7 Ka7 7.
                                    Kc6 Kb8 8. Kb6 Ka8 9. Nc7+ Kb8 10.
                                    Nc6#
               16    14:50  Mat10   1. Nc4 Qh2+ 2. Kc6 Kb8 3. Nd6 Qc2 4.
                                    Nb4 Qh7 5. Nd7+ Qxd7+ 6. Kxd7 Ka7 7.
                                    Kc6 Kb8 8. Kb6 Ka8 9. Nc7+ Kb8 10.
                                    Nc6#
              time=15:00  cpu=201%  mat=3  n=663078447  fh=10%  nps=736532
              ext-> checks=45157171 recaps=0 pawns=0 1rep=2074505 thrt:59900
              predicted=0  nodes=663078447  evals=1
              endgame tablebase-> probes done=655803  successful=571374
              SMP->  split=1705  stop=168  data=9/256  cpu=30:17  elap=15:00

mate in 10 moves.
Kind regards
Bernhard



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