Author: Mark Ryan
Date: 19:12:18 04/06/00
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Hi: I agree with Jeff; new guidelines are needed. I think we are fast approaching the stage where we are running humans versus racing cars. (But the Martians are not yet a threat; their endgame technique is hopeless :) Mark On April 06, 2000 at 11:02:33, Jeff Nouveau wrote: >Hi, > >We see once more with this event that we are facing a deep problem : we are NOT >sure of the fairness of human-computer matches. > >'We' represents everyone involved in chess : OTB players, correspondance >players, computer chess addicts, and so on. > >In every competition, there are rules ; the trouble is that, humans and computer >don't have the same means to play the game of chess. > >Computer : calculation power, huge and 'perfect' memory (RAM, hard disks, CD >drivers, DVD...), no fear, no stress, never tired. > >OTB human player : good but tricky :o) memory, intuition, very good at using >chess knowledge. > >Correspondance human player : the same as OTB plus books and database. > >Stephen HAM is experimenting for us in the correspondance zone, but I think we >can say now, that the games are 'fair' : the time control is sufficient to >eliminate stress and tireness, and the right to use databases and books >compensate the fantastic memory of computers. > >I think that we have to find good and new rules for OTB play, because I'm >convinced that computer have an unfair advantage over humans there. > >The rules of chess competition have been written with human in mind, so if we >want to see computers compete with us, we must write new rules. > >And we'll have to do it again for martians. > >Jeff > >On April 05, 2000 at 16:43:10, Jeroen Noomen wrote: > >>Hi computer chess fans, >> >>Just read this message on the Dutch teletekst: >> >>"Fritz SSS* is the 12th participant in the Dutch championship. >>There has been a agreement with 10 of the 11 human players >>that the computer takes part. Only IGM Van der Sterren refuses >>to play the machine and gets a '0' by forfeit. >>The acceptance came after it is clear that there will be a record >>in prize money this year". >> >>Personally I totally dislike this agreement. Computers should not >>play in a championship of a country. That Van der Sterren is robbed >>of a full point is very sour and gives me a bitter taste. Humans >>should never be forced to play against a machine. >>IMO the dutch chess federation has made a very poor step here. I am >>curious what others think of this! >> >>Regards, Jeroen
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