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Subject: Re: Solution is to revise the rules! FIDE did it before, then it reverted ..

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 19:44:39 04/06/00

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On April 06, 2000 at 19:27:26, KarinsDad wrote:

>On April 06, 2000 at 19:16:52, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>>
>>>3) Programs should not have the ability to announce a >50 move mate and extend
>>>the 50 move rule since other programs may not have that ability.
>>>
>>>I could easily disagree with this one. A GM cannot announce a >50 move mate
>>>(usually) due to lack of ability. GMs just do not know the endgames to that nth
>>>degree. But, a computer can. So, because a computer is "smarter" (i.e. can
>>>search deeper into the endgame due to having EGTBs), why should a position that
>>>is a forced win be a draw due to a human limitations rule? But, ok, I will drop
>>>it as it doesn't occur that often.
>>
>>But it's not a forced win. It's a draw, according to the 50 move rule. Like it
>>or not, there is a 50 move rule, and it's a rule just like any other rule, e.g.,
>>"pawns can only move forward."
>>
>>If you get into a situation where you can't win due to the 50 move rule, then
>>tough luck. You have to play better to win.
>>
>>-Tom
>
>In my country, we have laws. And the reasons for those laws are usually valid.
>And the reasons for changing those laws are also usually valid. And I do not say
>to my government, "Hey, we have always done it this way, so don't you go
>changing that law, just because the situation may have changed.".

Of course. But HAS the situation changed?

Isn't it possible for a human to reach a "won" endgame and still draw due to the
50-move rule?

What if a human says, "I know this endgame perfectly and I can win it in 51
moves." Why should a TD allow a computer to play out the game and not a human?

I think it would make more sense if you were arguing for an end to the 50 move
rule, and not for inequality in the rules.

-Tom



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