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Subject: Re: Computers in national championships

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 01:56:08 04/07/00

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On April 07, 2000 at 04:39:45, Jeff Nouveau wrote:

>On April 07, 2000 at 04:06:56, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>On April 06, 2000 at 11:22:35, Jeroen Noomen wrote:
>>
>>>Hi everybody,
>>>
>>>There have been a lot of reactions to my last posting, in which I told about
>>>Fritz SSS* taking part in the Dutch championship. Unfortunately most of the
>>>debate was related to 'should computers be allowed to play in human
>>>tournaments'. This is of course an interesting subject, but for me the big point
>>>is that we are talking about the national championship of my country Holland.
>>>
>>>That a computer can take part in such an event raises the following questions:
>>>
>>>1. Has a computer a nationality?
>>
>>First let me say what others already mentioned: Better use the word PROGRAM
>>instead of computer. The computer can do nothing without the program.
>
>And what can do the program without computer ? Furthermore, you perfectly know
>that the computer has a huge impact : Pentium 133 and Athlon 1GHz don't give the
>same result...


See my other post, a bit below. It must be a steady combination of
Program
Hardware
Opening book
Program settings
Operator

Each of them can be different anyhow.


>>So, to answer your question, a computer has NO Nationality but the programmer of
>>the chess program has.
>
>Indeed...but who plays ?
>
>>
>>>2. Can a computer be a national champion?
>>
>>Computer no, program: why not?
>
>An arabian horse cannot be arabian champion of 400 m race, why ? He is arabian,
>and he can run. Because he is no human, maybe ?
>
><snip>
>
>>
>>>6. What if the machine will be the champion: Can (in this case Holland) this
>>>   country put the machine on board 1 of the Olympiad team?
>>
>>I would go for it. :-)
>>But I fear FIDE has s.th. against it...and what if many other countries do the
>>same?
>
>We definitly need new rules, with human AND computers in mind, if we want to see
>this happen.
>
>I explained my views in an other post : the way it's done today is not fair.
>
>Jeff
>
><snip>



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