Author: Harald Faber
Date: 05:54:00 04/07/00
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On April 07, 2000 at 07:08:56, Mogens Larsen wrote: >On April 07, 2000 at 04:16:09, Harald Faber wrote: > >>On April 06, 2000 at 11:08:57, Mogens Larsen wrote: >> >>>On April 06, 2000 at 00:49:45, Harald Faber wrote: >>> >>>>Everyone knows that I like to see programs compete against humans until it >>>>becomes clear that programs are superior in tournament tc. >>> >>>Why is it important that programs are superior at tournament tc? If you don't >>>mind me asking. >>> >>>Best wishes... >>>Mogens >> >>Isn't it getting boring when the programs are superior to humans and they play >>against each other anyway? >>I wouldn't find it interesting if we knew the result before. >>And when I say programs are superior I mean REALLY superior, so that a win >>against a program becomes a rare event to celebrate. But calm down, at the >>moment I'd say we are far away from this scenario. > >I'm not quite sure I understand what kind of point you're making. In my opinion >there's three options: > >1) Computers compete in tournaments until they are superior and then they're >thrown out, only to compete among themselves. Right; it makes sense, doesn't it? >2) Computers are not allowed at all, unless it's an exhibition game. I see no reason why. This way we'll never know how strong the programs really are. >3) Making a rule book for computer participation, i.e. hardware and software >regulation. I would suggest: no tablebases, no manmade opening books (difficult >to control I know), no access to databases (unless it's own games) and >restriction on the number of processors and their clockfrequence. I'd prefer the commercial version, out of the box, unless there are some real bugs like hash too small in default installation, no permanent brain or so. That includes the opening book which is delivered within the commercial version. Tablebases: why not? Hopefully we are not only interested in the comp-human challenge but also in high quality chess! >3b) If participation by option 3) gives rise to computer superiority apply >latter part of option 1) :o). :-) >Best wishes... >Mogens
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