Author: Bertil Eklund
Date: 10:56:09 04/08/00
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On April 08, 2000 at 09:01:42, blass uri wrote: >On April 08, 2000 at 08:21:25, Ritter Rost wrote: > >>Dear Mr. Karlsson, >> >>we have noticed a message from Mr. Bertil Eklund in which he is announcing >>that SHREDDER 4 is currently being tested for the SSDF rating list. >> >>We are very surprised about this information. We have made very clear in the >>past that we strongly disagree with such tests being published in the SSDF >>rating list or elsewhere. The reason for this objection is the fact that our >>products are facing >> *unfair and unbalanced competition* >>and >> *strong disadvantages* >>compared to certain competitors. >> >>We have strong evidence from the side of well-known computer chess experts >>that the Chessbase autoplayer (being used with the programs Fritz 5.32, Fritz >>6, Hiarcs 7.32, Nimzo 7.32 and Junior 5/6) is showing very strange and >>irregular behaviour. It frequently happens that the results of games are >> >>manipulated in favour of the mentioned programs. We have noticed this very >>serious problem already some time ago and decided to prepare a kind of >>"anti-cheating firewall system" to protect our programs against any >>manipulations from third parties. As long as this protection is not ready we >>believe that your test results are partially manipulated and meaningless. > >If you are right then I think that it is very important to prove it. >I know that the autoplayer has problems and there are some cases of errors >but I want a proof that there are more errors with shredder. > >Enrique played many public games between shredder and the chessbase programs >with the autoplayer. > >please prove that there are errors that shredder cannot reproduce and that there >are significantly less errors that Junior,Fritz,Nimzo,Hiarcs cannot reproduce. > >> >>We want to warn you once again to publish such irregular tests, because this >>is a violation of the legal rights of the programmers as well as our company. >>Furthermore it's a hostile assault against the justified interests of the >>involved parties. >> >>If you don't respect this warning we may consider to take legal steps against >>the SSDF and the involved private persons (including Mr. Karlsson and Mr. >>Eklund) at a German court of our choice. > > >The ssdf can send their results with shredder and other programs to somebody >else and (s)he who did not buy the programs can post the results without telling >who told him(her) the results. >In this case you cannot prove that the ssdf is responsible for the results >because it can be somebody else with similiar hardware. > >You can do nothing against it so I think that it is absurd to try to take legal >steps against the SSDF. > >I think that people should avoid buying your program if you take legal steps >against the ssdf. > Hi! I have asked mr Weiner for the proof of a cheating auto-player and also told him that he can provide my email-address to anyone for sending me the proofs. I have also guaranteed to hold the name secret or send me the proofs anonymously. So far I haven´t received anything other than that we should send every single game with logfiles to them. Bertil >Uri
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