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Subject: Moderation: This is thin ice

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 14:38:36 04/08/00

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On April 08, 2000 at 08:21:25, Ritter Rost wrote:

>Dear Mr. Karlsson,
>
>we have noticed a message from Mr. Bertil Eklund in which he is announcing
>that SHREDDER 4 is currently being tested for the SSDF rating list.
>
>We are very surprised about this information. We have made very clear in the
>past that we strongly disagree with such tests being published  in the SSDF

I don't understand what you mean by "test." What does it mean to be tested _for_
the SSDF list? Certainly it's good enough to be on the list?

>rating list or elsewhere. The reason for this objection is the fact that our
>products are facing
>     *unfair and unbalanced competition*
>and
>     *strong disadvantages*
>compared to certain competitors.
>
>We have strong evidence from the side of well-known computer chess experts
>that the Chessbase  autoplayer (being used with the programs Fritz 5.32, Fritz
>6, Hiarcs 7.32, Nimzo 7.32 and Junior 5/6) is showing very strange and
>irregular behaviour. It frequently happens that the results of games are

Why don't you present this evidence? What is the difference between this post
and wild, unfounded accusation? Without evidence, I believe this post is
somewhat abusive, and therefore in violation of the CCC rules.

>manipulated in favour of the mentioned programs. We have noticed this very
>serious problem already some time ago and decided to prepare a kind of
>"anti-cheating firewall system" to protect our programs against any
>manipulations from third parties. As long as this protection is not ready we
>believe that your test results are partially manipulated and meaningless.
>
>We want to warn you once again to publish such irregular tests, because this

What does this have to do with CCC? You're saying "we want to warn _you_..." Why
don't you send this message to the person that you want to warn?

Presumably the reason you're posting this message on CCC is to warn the computer
chess community about inaccurate test results, but without providing any
evidence, your post doesn't even accomplish this goal.

>is a violation of the legal rights of the programmers as well as our company.
>Furthermore it's a hostile assault against the justified interests of the
>involved parties.
>
>If you don't respect this warning we may consider to take legal steps against
>the SSDF and the involved private persons (including Mr. Karlsson and Mr.
>Eklund) at a German court of our choice. A possible court sentence would be
>easily enforcable in any country of the European community (including Sweden).
>
>Please kindly reconfirm as soon as possible that you are going to respect the
>rights of the copyright holders and wait until a protected version will be
>available for your testing.
>
>Best regards
>Ossi Weiner
>
>C.C.: Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
>C.C.: Klaka Rechtsanwaelte, Dr. Wolfgang Straub (Attorney at Law)


Again, I don't see the reason why you are posting this letter on CCC. Without
any evidence, I believe this post is abusive.

Please present a reason for your post, or some evidence to back up your
accusations. Otherwise I will consider "closing" this thread.

-Tom



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