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Subject: Re: Junior6a's mistake in the ssdf games (Diagram)

Author: Jason Williamson

Date: 20:19:06 04/08/00

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On April 08, 2000 at 13:00:22, blass uri wrote:

>On April 08, 2000 at 12:35:59, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On April 08, 2000 at 12:20:50, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>[D]8/3b4/8/8/2RrkPp1/6K1/6P1/8 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Hello Uri,
>>>Please give me a drawing line for white.  I believe this game is lost anyway so
>>>what difference does it make how it is lost?
>>>Jim Walker
>>
>>I did not anlayze for a long time  but it is clear that after trading rooks
>>white is losing when after different moves like Rc1 or Rc7 I am not sure about
>>it because I did not see a line for black to create a passed pawn(the main line
>>of the computer did not show a passed pawn and without a passed pawn I am not
>>sure if black can win.
>>
>>Uri
>
>possible line is Rc1 Rd3+ Kh4 Kxf4 g3+ and I do not see the evaluation of
>programs go up.
>
>I believe that there is at least practical chances for white to draw in this
>line.
>
>I am not sure if the position is drawn because it is possible that there is an
>idea to win g3 that is too deep for the computer and it is also possible that
>black can win without a passed pawn in a similiar way that it is possible to win
>sometimes KRB vs KR.
>
>Uri

Without spending alot of time, one possible way to win for black might simply be
to try to win the G pawn where it stands, some setup such as Rc2, and B to the
long diagonal.  It seems to me that is should be very easy to set up a zugszwang
position.

Jason



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