Author: blass uri
Date: 23:27:18 04/08/00
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On April 08, 2000 at 23:19:06, Jason Williamson wrote: >On April 08, 2000 at 13:00:22, blass uri wrote: > >>On April 08, 2000 at 12:35:59, blass uri wrote: >> >>>On April 08, 2000 at 12:20:50, James T. Walker wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>>[D]8/3b4/8/8/2RrkPp1/6K1/6P1/8 w - - 0 1 >>>> >>>>Hello Uri, >>>>Please give me a drawing line for white. I believe this game is lost anyway so >>>>what difference does it make how it is lost? >>>>Jim Walker >>> >>>I did not anlayze for a long time but it is clear that after trading rooks >>>white is losing when after different moves like Rc1 or Rc7 I am not sure about >>>it because I did not see a line for black to create a passed pawn(the main line >>>of the computer did not show a passed pawn and without a passed pawn I am not >>>sure if black can win. >>> >>>Uri >> >>possible line is Rc1 Rd3+ Kh4 Kxf4 g3+ and I do not see the evaluation of >>programs go up. >> >>I believe that there is at least practical chances for white to draw in this >>line. >> >>I am not sure if the position is drawn because it is possible that there is an >>idea to win g3 that is too deep for the computer and it is also possible that >>black can win without a passed pawn in a similiar way that it is possible to win >>sometimes KRB vs KR. >> >>Uri > >Without spending alot of time, one possible way to win for black might simply be >to try to win the G pawn where it stands, some setup such as Rc2, and B to the >long diagonal. It seems to me that is should be very easy to set up a zugszwang >position. > >Jason It is not so easy because when the bishop go to the long diagnol white can win the pawn g4. white also can simply move the pawn to g3 in a few moves and prevent all this plan programs including hiarcs that is not a null mover in the endgames cannot see a way to win(I did not try to play hiarcs against other programs but I do not see a main line that is leading to win the pawn). Uri
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