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Subject: Re: Deep Blue vs Fritz 6 who's better?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 07:41:50 04/09/00

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On April 08, 2000 at 13:02:56, Daniel Chancey wrote:

>How about we compare the Deep Blue games with the Fritz 6 games. also compare
>Kasparov's games.  Who's better?
>
>Castle2000

all mony on fritz6 and not on deep blue. deep blue will get outsearched,
outbooked, and deep blue will miss all egtb in hardware.

Also deep blue is way too aggressive tuned.

Kasparov should be shot for his performance against deep blue.
sure he made it exciting, but the underestimation kasparov had in
the last few games, showing clearly that whatever he would do
he would win the match anyway, that underestimation luckily
is punished in game 6.

Just the thought of giving the computer a position with a clear target
in the middle of the centre, only the thought should be already
deadly punished in a game. that happened. regrettably IBM won
billions of dollars on the stock market, and therefore didn't want
to risk all that, so a true comparision we will never see.

Even so many years later, IBM doesn't want to play, yes even sold
the rights of the chip to someone not carrying IBMs name.

IBM will be therefore forever winner. Who knows a program called 'hsu' ?

My program's name DIEP looks more like 'deep blue' than 'hsu' chess
will ever look like. With a blue interface in Aegon 97, over 50% of everyone
passing by and watching my games even mistook DIEP for Deep Blue.

Most even had the guts to ask. I was asked about a hundred times
that tournament. incredible...

If i compare the positional mistakes made by deep blue with todays software,
then it's obvious that todays software is much stronger.

Please go to icc see the program 'deepviolet' play, see the types
of positional mistakes it makes (capturing bishops at g3
always because that leaves opponent doubled pawn for example),
and give me one reason why it wouldn't be deep blue on a PC.

I have not seen deepviolet lose games because of clearly missing
tactical shots. All mistakes it makes can be explained as positional
mistakes. all positional mistakes it makes are the same type of
positional mistakes deep blue has made in the second match against
kasparov.

So  considering deep violet doesn't make tactical mistakes,
it's hard to imagine deep blue being higher rated as deepviolet.

Vincent



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