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Subject: Re: Fritz6a major Endgame BUG !

Author: Mark Young

Date: 15:00:10 04/09/00

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On April 09, 2000 at 14:25:53, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 09, 2000 at 12:18:49, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On April 09, 2000 at 11:55:03, Laurence Chen wrote:
>>
>>>Without the 5 men tablebases, only using the 3 and 4 men tablebases, Fritz 6a
>>>plays the endgame correctly.  Thus, it seems that Fritz 6a uses the 5 men
>>>tablebases incorrectly. Bummer !!!
>>
>>I have the 5 men tablebases, and it worked on my system.
>
>
>do you have _all_ or _some_?  There are 7.5 gigs of compressed 5 piece
>tables available.  The two of you might easily be testing with different
>ones available.

I have them all, downloaded from your site. I use the compressed files if that
makes a diff.

>
>
>>
>>>Laurence
>>>On April 09, 2000 at 11:47:22, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 09, 2000 at 09:47:27, Laurence Chen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I could not reproduce the draw, Fritz 6a always won.
>>>>
>>>>>Here's a position which Fritz 6a played against Rebel-Tiger 12e, and somehow
>>>>>Fritz 6a blundered away a win to a draw. It played like a drunk in my opinion in
>>>>>this endgame.  It seems to be a major bug in Fritz 6a when accessing the
>>>>>tablebases.  I tested this position with other engines, Junior 6a, Hiarcs 7.32,
>>>>>Crafty 17.07, and they all played the endgame correctly.  I have all the 5 men
>>>>>tablebase endgame in my hard-drive.  And the engines have access to all the
>>>>>tablebases.  Can someone check if this happens also in Fritz 6a?
>>>>>
>>>>>Position after move 70. Black to move.
>>>>>[d]8/8/8/2K3p1/3r2P1/4k3/2R5/8 b - - 0 70
>>>>>
>>>>>[Event "Level=Blitz:5'+3". "]
>>>>>[Site "Mississauga"]
>>>>>[Date "2000.04.08"]
>>>>>[Round "4"]
>>>>>[White "Rebel-Tiger 12e"]
>>>>>[Black "Fritz 6"]
>>>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>>>>[ECO "E19"]
>>>>>[Annotator "0.37"]
>>>>>[PlyCount "198"]
>>>>>[EventDate "2000.04.08"]
>>>>>
>>>>>{16384kB, General.ctg. Pentium III 600E
>>>>>} 1. d4 {0} 1... Nf6 {0} 2. c4 {0}
>>>>>2... e6 {0} 3. Nf3 {0} 3... b6 {0} 4. g3 {0} 4... Bb7 {0} 5. Bg2 {0} 5... Be7 {
>>>>>0} 6. O-O {0} 6... O-O {0} 7. Nc3 {0} 7... Ne4 {0} 8. Qc2 {0} 8... Nxc3 {0} 9.
>>>>>Qxc3 {1} 9... c5 {0} 10. Rd1 {0} 10... d6 {0} 11. b3 {0} 11... Bf6 {0} 12. Bb2
>>>>>{0} 12... Qe7 {0} 13. Qc2 {1} 13... Nc6 {0} 14. e4 {0} 14... g6 {0} 15. d5 {0}
>>>>>15... Nb4 {0} 16. Bxf6 {0} 16... Qxf6 {0} 17. Qd2 {0} 17... e5 {0} 18. a3 {11}
>>>>>18... Na6 {0} 19. Qh6 {last book move 25} 19... Qg7 {0.37/12 13} 20. Qxg7+ {7}
>>>>>20... Kxg7 {0.31/13 0} 21. Bh3 {10} 21... Kf6 {0.25/12 34} 22. Bd7 {10} 22...
>>>>>Nb8 {0.12/13 31} 23. Ba4 {16} 23... Ke7 {0.12/12 11} 24. Nh4 {11} 24... f5 {
>>>>>0.03/13 13} 25. f4 {6} 25... fxe4 {-0.25/12 19} 26. fxe5 {13} 26... dxe5 {
>>>>>-0.38/12 19} 27. Re1 {16} 27... Kd6 {-0.38/12 8} 28. Rxe4 {6} 28... a6 {
>>>>>-0.31/12 2} 29. Re3 {4} 29... b5 {-0.06/12 4} 30. cxb5 {7} 30... axb5 {
>>>>>-0.19/12 9} 31. Bxb5 {11} 31... Bxd5 {-0.19/12 0} 32. Rd1 {6} 32... Nc6 {
>>>>>0.06/11 1} 33. Bxc6 {8} 33... Kxc6 {0.37/12 0} 34. b4 {8} 34... e4 {0.50/11 0}
>>>>>35. Rc3 {6} 35... c4 {0.00/12 17} 36. Ng2 {16} 36... Bg8 {0.00/13 0} 37. Rd4 {7
>>>>>} 37... Rfe8 {0.00/12 7} 38. Ne3 {11} 38... Kb5 {0.00/13 0} 39. Nc2 {8} 39...
>>>>>Rad8 {0.09/12 10} 40. Kf2 {19} 40... Ka4 {0.00/15 0} 41. Ke3 {4} 41... Bd5 {
>>>>>0.00/13 3} 42. Rd2 {9} 42... Rf8 {0.00/12 10} 43. Ke2 {0} 43... Bg8 {0.00/12 12
>>>>>} 44. Nd4 {4} 44... Rde8 {0.00/11 9} 45. Ke1 {5} 45... h6 {0.03/12 27} 46. Re2
>>>>>{5} 46... Rf6 {-0.09/12 15} 47. Rce3 {5} 47... Rd8 {-0.38/12 9} 48. Rxe4 {9}
>>>>>48... Rfd6 {-0.47/11 1} 49. Ne6 {24} 49... Bxe6 {-1.22/11 3} 50. Rxe6 {17}
>>>>>50... Kxa3 {-1.66/13 0} 51. R6e3+ {16} 51... Kxb4 {-1.72/12 6} 52. Rb2+ {1}
>>>>>52... Kc5 {-1.78/12 9} 53. Ke2 {5} 53... Rd3 {-1.91/12 7} 54. Rxd3 {13} 54...
>>>>>Rxd3 {-1.81/11 3} 55. Ra2 {9} 55... Rd6 {-2.22/12 6} 56. Ke3 {9} 56... c3 {
>>>>>-2.53/12 6} 57. Ra7 {4} 57... Kc4 {-2.66/12 2} 58. Rc7+ {3} 58... Kb3 {
>>>>>-2.78/12 1} 59. Rb7+ {7} 59... Kc2 {-3.03/14 0} 60. Rc7 {16} 60... Rd3+ {
>>>>>-3.25/12 4} 61. Ke2 {1} 61... Rd2+ {-3.28/12 2} 62. Ke3 {4} 62... Rxh2 {
>>>>>-3.38/13 0} 63. Rc6 {9} 63... g5 {-3.53/13 0} 64. Kd4 {4} 64... Rd2+ {
>>>>>-4.13/12 1} 65. Kc4 {9} 65... Rd3 {-4.16/13 0} 66. g4 {14} 66... Kd2 {
>>>>>-5.66/14 0} 67. Rxh6 {9} 67... c2 {-14.44/11 5} 68. Rh2+ {2} 68... Ke3 {
>>>>>-15.66/12 0} 69. Rxc2 {3} 69... Rd4+ {-#34/6 0} 70. Kc5 {2} 70... Rxg4 {
>>>>>-#33/5 0} 71. Kd5 {3} 71... Rd4+ {-#31/4 0} 72. Ke5 {2} 72... Rb4 {-#30/5 0}
>>>>>73. Rc3+ {4} 73... Kf2 {-#29/5 0} 74. Rc2+ {2} 74... Kg3 {-#28/5 0} 75. Rc3+ {3
>>>>>} 75... Kh4 {-#27/5 0} 76. Rc6 {2} 76... Rb5+ {-#31/4 0} 77. Ke4 {4} 77... Rb3
>>>>>{-#30/5 0} 78. Kf5 {12} 78... Rf3+ {-#30/4 0} 79. Ke4 {2} 79... Rf4+ {-#30/4 0}
>>>>>80. Ke5 {7} 80... Ra4 {-#27/5 0} 81. Kf5 {4} 81... Rf4+ {-#28/4 0} 82. Ke5 {2}
>>>>>82... Rb4 {-#27/5 0} 83. Kf5 {2} 83... Rb5+ {-#31/4 0} 84. Ke4 {2} 84... g4 {
>>>>>-#30/5 0} 85. Kf4 {3} 85... Rb4+ {-#29/4 0} 86. Kf5 {2} 86... Rb5+ {-#30/4 0}
>>>>>87. Kf4 {2} 87... Kh5 {0.00/47 0} 88. Rc8 {3} 88... Rb1 {0.00/47 0} 89. Rh8+ {2
>>>>>} 89... Kg6 {0.00/47 0} 90. Kxg4 {2} 90... Kf6 {0.00/47 0} 91. Kf3 {3} 91...
>>>>>Ke5 {0.00/47 0} 92. Re8+ {2} 92... Kd4 {0.00/47 0} 93. Rd8+ {2} 93... Kc5 {
>>>>>0.00/47 0} 94. Ke4 {2} 94... Ra1 {0.00/47 0} 95. Rd7 {2} 95... Kc6 {0.00/47 0}
>>>>>96. Rh7 {4} 96... Kd6 {0.00/47 0} 97. Rh6+ {3} 97... Kc5 {0.00/47 0} 98. Rh8 {2
>>>>>} 98... Rf1 {0.00/47 0} 99. Rh7 {2} 99... Rd1 {0.00/47 0} 1/2-1/2



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