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Subject: Re: TB cache size recommendations, please!

Author: Eelco de Groot

Date: 15:45:23 04/10/00

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On April 10, 2000 at 14:45:13, John Coffey wrote:

>Let me get this sraight....
>
>1.  hash is the transposition table.
>2.  hashp is pawn structure caching?
>3.  cache is used for tablebase caching?
>
>How does one cache tablebase stuff?  It is all endgames so I am not sure I see
>the benefit.   I guess that the exact same endgame could arrise in multiple
>continuations.
>
>John Coffey

I don't know much about how these hash tables are built up, -I do think you are
right about hash, hashp and cache-, but if the number of pieces on the board
goes down the number of transpositions that you will see in a typical position
and chess-tree goes up by a lot. That's why hashtables (transposition tables)
are especially effective in endgames. So that would also be true with only 3 to
5 pieces on the board then. If you can search the transposition tables faster
than the endgame tables on CD or on harddisk, compressed or not, such tablebase
caching would pay off. I don't know if for Robert Hyatt's Crafty on the Quad the
tablebases are also accessed while they are still compressed? In that case
transposition tables would I think be faster still. But once a program is
actually in a 3 to 5 piece sitation, would it then not be possible to use all
room in the normal hash for just the endgame tablebase caching? And, if in
Shredder's case the endgame tables are still on (Turbo-)CD I don't understand
why Shredder wouldn't profit from more than 4 Mb? As I said I don't know that
much about the subject. If maybe somebody could edify a little? (Like Dan's
Encyclopedia Brittannica I mean?)

Thanks
Eelco



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