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Subject: Re: What rating has a compterprogram 2010?

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 23:28:07 04/11/00

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On April 11, 2000 at 06:34:44, Colin Frayn wrote:

>>Chess 4.7 was probably around 2000 rating before 1980. 1300 might be about right
>>for the best microcomputer programs in 1980. (That's 1300 by 1980 standards. I
>>think the average 1000 player today should beat any microcomputer program from
>>1980).
>
>Remember that computers don't make mistakes.  You can get a computer program
>exhaustively searching 3 ply depth and it still plays ptreety well in shorter
>time controls and you have to be careful when you're playing blitz.  Especially
>if the positional evaluation is good.
>
>>Hardware improvements on their own should be enough to get computers to between
>>2800 and 3200 by 2010.
>
>Hmmm... dubious.  Of course the improvement in ELO with processor speed is not
>linear, but goes more slowly than that. I think that the top supercomputer type
>program in 2010 will be able to make over 3000 ELO.
>You have to remember that computer speed probably won't continue to increase at
>this rate for another 10 years either.  There are some pretty large physical
>constraints beginning to feature in the latest generation CPUs.
>
>> However i expect software improvements to be even more
>>important, resulting in computers stronger than 3500 by then.
>
>I disagree.  It would take a few stupendously impressive algorithms to generate
>that sort of ELO improvement.  Full 6 man tablebases won't make _that_ much
>difference, and even enormous opening books are probably still not going to be
>the deciding factor when playing against human GMs.  Perhaps improvements in
>making computers play well against humans might well cause a few ELO
>improvement, but I think 3500 is extremely optimistic.  I think we'll have
>supercomputer programs playing as if they were humans with a rating of 3000, but
>anything more is probably wishful thinking. :)
>
>Still.... 3000 would be nice :)  Imagine the new middlegame theory......
>
>Cheers,
>Col


Most people including myself don't even know what a compterprogram is-yet.
when they become popular I suppose anything could happen!
S.Taylor



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