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Subject: Re: Shredder in the SSDF list

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 01:54:39 04/12/00

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On April 12, 2000 at 03:51:56, Ritter Rost wrote:

>>And I'm just saying again, "What does it matter to you?"
>
>I am interested in an independent and strong SSDF which does not have to fear
>legal threats if they want to publish test results. This matters a lot to me.
>
>>Are you being bullied or prosecuted - No
>>Are the people being "bullied & prosecuted" publishing the results anyway - Yes.
>
>No they are not. See several posts of Bertil Eklunds on the matter. Ossi Weiner
>forbade them to publish the results of Genius, Zarkov and WChess.
>
>
>>My view from here is you are Anonomously trying to bring a private conflict into
>>a public forum.
>
>For computer chess the authenticity and independence of the SSDF as the only
>major testing institution is not a private matter. Nor is the behaviour of the
>major software publishers.
>
>>
>>The major achievement of this is a lot of discussion about the legality of your
>>original post & the possibility that CCC or the Moderators could be in legal
>>trouble because of Your post.
>
>CCC is a healthy, strong and commercially independent forum which can survive a
>little controversy as long as it remains free of _personal_ attacks, Tina. Some
>excitement here and there may even help to raise the number of visits/members.
>
>Furthermore there is no need to refer to my unthoughtful original post which has
>been thankfully deleted. I am simply quoting SSDF member Bertil Eklund in this
>thread.
>
>Bottom line: I would like the SSDF to be allowed to publish all test results. At
>the moment this is not the case. Bertil Eklund said that Ossi Weiner asked them
>to suppress the results of Genius, Zarkov and WChess,
>
>Ritter

I agree with your entire post.

What I don't understand is why Ossi doesn't want the results of these programs
published. They're all strong programs and I expect they would all end up within
a few points of the top program. It seems like that would be terrific
advertising for Ossi & co.

-Tom



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