Author: Jason Williamson
Date: 08:31:24 04/13/00
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On April 13, 2000 at 09:47:46, Mogens Larsen wrote: >On April 13, 2000 at 09:25:49, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>I have seen different Websites and almost all have LG2000 2.5 rated second after >>Crafty Fallowed by AnMon 5.6 as the third rated Winboard program. I agreed so >>far with those rating, but last week I started to test the newer version of >>Gromit 3.0 Versus Lg2000 2.5 and against AnMon 5.06. Either the testers were >>using a different processors than I was prodicing different result, or the >>setting and opening book were different, I used an AMD K6 II 500 Mhz and the >>result for Gromit 3.0 were much higher than either Lg2000 2.5 and AnMon 5.06. >>The time for the first test was set to game in 15 minutes per side using >>Winboard version 4.07 and the same computer with 128 Mb of RAM. Gromit Score >>28.5 games out of 50 against Lg2000 2.5 and 31 to 19 against AnMon 5.06. Now I >>was very upset simply because my favorite program Lg2000 2.5 lost to Gromit 3.0, >>but when I tested against Anmont 5.06, I finally realized that Gromit was way >>underated. Then I tested then once more increasing the time control to game >>in 30 minutes per side, and again Gromit 30 score this time the test was shorter >>only 30 games and Gromit score 16.5 out of 30 games against Lg2000 2.5 and >>against AnMon 5.06 Gromit Score 18 to 12. Now what is wrong with this picture? >>Gromit 3.0 clearly beat the crap out of the two leading programs in the Winboard >>rating list. Why does Gromit has such a low rating on all Winboard Rating List? > >I agree that Gromit 3.0 is underrated, but it might be due to the lack of games. >It's fairly new and I believe its rating will increase as time goes by. >Furthermore you shouldn't put too much emphasis on the ratings. It's fairly >certain that Crafty is the strongest WinBoard engine, but there's a lot of >engines crowding the places behind Crafty. SOS, Comet (B20 looks strong), LG2000 >and maybe Gromit 3.0. In my experience AnMon belongs to this category at faster >games, e.g. below a minute per move. I haven't tested Gromit 3.0 at longer >timecontrols to check if the improvement is limited to rapid games. That would >be an obvious thing to do. > >My strength list would be something like this: >1. Crafty 2. LG2000 3. SOS 4. Comet, AnMon 5. Gromit, Phalanx, TCB and Amy. > >Best wishes... >Mogens Mine would be: 1. Crafty Out of intertia, I suspect that the gap is narrowing if you only use one cpu. 2. LG2000 3. TCB 4. Comet 5. AnMon 6. Gromit 7. Amy Again using 1 cpu only 8. Phalanx But I also put the gap between 8 and 1 first as less then 100 points, and between 8 and 2 maybe less then 50-75. With SMP used, Crafty is quite far ahead, then probably LG, then Amy, then the rest. SOS appears to be ok, but I haven't tested it enough to rank it yet. :) Jason
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