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Subject: Re: Ram Memory

Author: Wayne Lowrance

Date: 17:14:34 04/13/00

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On April 13, 2000 at 16:25:43, Mark Longridge wrote:

>On April 12, 2000 at 21:53:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 12, 2000 at 19:39:44, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>
>>>On April 12, 2000 at 18:32:22, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 12, 2000 at 16:41:20, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 12, 2000 at 14:57:42, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Shopping for a computer at Gateway (they custom configure). He suggested that
>>>>>>since windows 95 supported only 128 meg ram I was wasting money on requesting
>>>>        ^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>        ^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>        ^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>256. I told him my apps software (chess programs, fritz etc) could use for sure
>>>>>>up to 184 meg ram on my current configured computer with  256 meg ram. This
>>>>>>value is what fritzy will setup when i tell it to play full strength. Is he
>>>>>>right ? is anything over 128 meg ram of little or no value because of windows ?
>>>>>>Even so is performance significantly improved by goiong to 256 meg ram ?
>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>This is BS.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have several friends with more than 128MB RAM and they use Win98 and it works
>>>>>just fine. I don't know what the Gateway guy has been smoking.
>>>>
>>>>Since you like to do this to me, I thought you might like to have someone
>>>>point out that you didn't read the post carefully.  He said "windows 95".
>>>>You answered with a response about "windows 98".  What do the two have to do
>>>>with each other.
>>>
>>>This is a little silly. If you don't know what they have to do with each other,
>>>you shouldn't be teaching CS.
>>>
>>>I used Win95 for about 2 weeks with 192MB RAM. It worked just fine. I admit that
>>>it wasn't OSR1 and I didn't run any special memory tests, but the memory got
>>>reported just fine in the System control panel.
>>>
>>>I answered the question for Win98 because I don't know anybody who still uses
>>>Win95, and I don't see why the memory handling would be different between the
>>>two. Everything else is virtually identical between them. If OSR1 couldn't
>>>address more than 128MB, then I guess my post is only half right, and I'm sorry.
>>>
>>>-Tom
>>
>>
>>There are obviously a _lot_ of things you don't see.  Check out max memory size
>>on linux 1.2.13 (last 1.2 release) then 2.0.x and then 2.2.x...  you might be
>>surprised which will work with large memories and which won't.
>>
>>Point being win95 and win98 are _not_ the same system. 98 is newer.  We had a
>>lab full of win95 machines and found that they wouldn't recognize memory beyone
>>128mb (several years ago).  We switched everything to NT (for other reasons)
>>which nicely solved the problem.  I don't keep up with which versions of windows
>>do or don't do this and that.  But clearly what works in 98 doesn't necessarily
>>work in 95. As 98 was released to enhance things in 95...
>
>Well, I thought I'd try it with crafty compiled by Microsoft C++ 5.0 with
>Win95b (also called OSR2) with 256 megs of ram.
>
>Windows 95b showed 256 megs of ram under system properties. I set crafty
>to hash 96 megs and hashp 80 megs, a total of 176 megs of ram allocated.
>I played a game against it and it worked fine.
>
>Mark

Thank you and to all
Wayne



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