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Subject: Re: Positional mistake, which computers avoid it?

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 23:10:38 04/13/00

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On April 14, 2000 at 01:55:07, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On April 14, 2000 at 01:31:12, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On April 13, 2000 at 18:00:21, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>>
>>>[D]r1b2rk1/5pbp/p7/1P1P2q1/2B1pp2/N7/PP2QPPP/R4R1K b - - 1 19
>>>
>>>	Black played 19... Qxg2+?, winning an exchange but giving up a dangerous and
>>>promising attack.
>>>	Which programs are able to avoid this mistake?
>>>José.
>>
>>At the search depths that I was able to reach, Crafty did Qxg2+, but Amy avoided
>>it for some reason, maybe with a deeper search Amy would have taken the pawn
>>with the Queen too.  I'm trying to figure out why not 19....f3 forking white's
>>Queen and the pawn blocking the King, is there a reason the programs hate that
>>idea?
>>
>>Pete
>>
[snip]
>
>This search looks like it was run from the initial position, not the given
>position...

You're right!  I'm sorry, I have no idea how to explain what I did wrong.
Thanks, this search at least considered 19...f3 that I was talking about but
gave it up.

Pete


    Amy version Winboard Version 0.7, Copyright (C) 2000 Thorsten Greiner
    Amy comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type 'warranty'
    This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
    under certain conditions; type 'distribution'

    Multiprocessor support (1 CPUs).

$Id: score.c,v 1.44 2000/03/21 15:18:58 thorsten Exp $
$Id: search.c,v 1.57 2000/03/22 10:19:02 thorsten Exp $

Hashtable sizes: 16384 k, 2048 k, 2048 k
Found 4-men endgame table bases.

White(1): Black(1): TC: 60 moves in 300 secs
TL: 4/16
GamePhase: Opening
It    Time   Score  principal Variation
 1     0.0     ---  1. .. axb5
 1     0.0  -2.304  1. .. axb5
 1     0.7     +++  1. .. Qg6
 1     0.7  -2.192  1. .. Qg6
 1     0.7     +++  1. .. f3
 1     0.7  -2.064  1. .. f3
 1     0.7  -2.064  1. .. f3
 2     0.8  -1.968  1. .. f3 2. gxf3
 2     1.0  -1.968  1. .. f3 2. gxf3
 3     1.1  -1.968  1. .. f3 2. gxf3 exf3
 3     1.3  -1.968  1. .. f3 2. gxf3 exf3
 4     1.4  -1.968  1. .. f3 2. gxf3 exf3 3. Qc2
 4     2.3  -1.968  1. .. f3 2. gxf3 exf3 3. Qc2
 5     2.7  -1.968  1. .. f3 2. gxf3 exf3 3. Qxf3 axb5 4. Rg1
 5     3.0     +++  1. .. Bg4
 5     3.3  -1.904  1. .. Bg4 2. Qc2 axb5 3. Nxb5 Qe7
 5     4.9     +++  1. .. Qe5
 5     5.5  -1.840  1. .. Qe5 2. Rfb1 Bb7 3. bxa6 Bxd5
 5     6.5  -1.840  1. .. Qe5 2. Rfb1 Bb7 3. bxa6 Bxd5
 6     8.1  -1.984  1. .. Qe5 2. bxa6 Qxb2 3. Nc2 Bf5 4. Kg1
 6     8.8     +++  1. .. Bg4
 6     9.6  -1.968  1. .. Bg4 2. Qc2 axb5 3. Nxb5 f3 4. g3
 6    11.4     +++  1. .. Qxg2+
 6    11.9  -1.008  1. .. Qxg2+ 2. Kxg2 f3+ 3. Kh1 fxe2 4. Bxe2 axb5 5. Rg1
 6    12.5  -1.008  1. .. Qxg2+ 2. Kxg2 f3+ 3. Kh1 fxe2 4. Bxe2 axb5 5. Rg1
 7    13.5  -0.960  1. .. Qxg2+ 2. Kxg2 f3+ 3. Kh1 fxe2 4. Rg1 Rd8 5. Rac1 a5
 7    16.2  -0.960  1. .. Qxg2+ 2. Kxg2 f3+ 3. Kh1 fxe2 4. Rg1 Rd8 5. Rac1 a5
 8    18.5  -0.768  1. .. Qxg2+ 2. Kxg2 f3+ 3. Kh1 fxe2 4. Rg1 Kh8 5. Rgb1
                    Rd8 6. Bxe2
 8    23.6  -0.768  1. .. Qxg2+ 2. Kxg2 f3+ 3. Kh1 fxe2 4. Rg1 Kh8 5. Rgb1
                    Rd8 6. Bxe2
 9    30.6  -0.672  1. .. Qxg2+ 2. Kxg2 f3+ 3. Kh1 fxe2 4. Rg1 Kh8 5. Rab1
                    Bd4 6. Bxe2 Bxf2
 9    42.6  -0.672  1. .. Qxg2+ 2. Kxg2 f3+ 3. Kh1 fxe2 4. Rg1 Kh8 5. Rab1
                    Bd4 6. Bxe2 Bxf2
10    56.3  -0.704  1. .. Qxg2+ 2. Kxg2 f3+ 3. Kh1 fxe2 4. Rg1 Kh8 5. Rab1
                    Bd4 6. Bxe2 Bxf2 7. Rgc1
10    1:40  -0.704  1. .. Qxg2+ 2. Kxg2 f3+ 3. Kh1 fxe2 4. Rg1 Kh8 5. Rab1
                    Bd4 6. Bxe2 Bxf2 7. Rgc1
Nodes = 1230527, QPerc: 68 %, time = 116.35 secs, 10.6 kN/s
Extensions: Check: 36171  DblChk: 41  DiscChk: 1017  SingReply: 7309
            Recapture: 5374   Passed Pawn: 3   Zugzwang: 0
Hashing: Trans: 18923/389847 = 4 %   Pawn: 480932/495514 = 97 %
         Eval: 345138/840652 = 41 %
EGTB Hits/Probes = 0/0
Hashtable 1:  entries = 1048576, use = 62064
Black(1):

I'll be back.



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