Author: blass uri
Date: 07:42:12 04/14/00
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On April 14, 2000 at 09:50:19, Bertil Eklund wrote: >On April 14, 2000 at 07:51:51, blass uri wrote: > >>On April 14, 2000 at 06:01:30, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote: >> >>>On April 13, 2000 at 17:21:26, blass uri wrote: >>> >>>>On April 13, 2000 at 13:37:13, Thorsten Czub wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 12, 2000 at 21:56:06, Dave Gomboc wrote: >>>>>>I suspect that Millennium GmbH would have an extremely tough time winning in >>>>>>court against the SSDF if they did publish results for Genuis 6.5, WChess, etc. >>>>>>Nonetheless, it appears that they feel that bullying independent citizen groups >>>>>>is a successful marketing strategy. I can only shake my head. >>>>> >>>>>look : ssdf published results that are not played out on the base >>>>>of a fair competition. the results have been influenced by the autoplayer >>>>>device. >>>>> >>>>>millennium company has nothing against a fair competition. >>>>>if the ssdf e.g. would (as they have done over the years with the dedicated >>>>>machines) >>>>>test by hand, nobody would complain. >>>>>but they use the chessbase autoplayer device. >>>>>the results of this device differ from the device other companies use. >>>>>therefore the results are somehow irrelevant. >>>>>but the ssdf do nowhere print in their publications that their results >>>>>have been "arranged" or "generated" with the >>>>>chessbase autoplayer device which is not generally trusted by agreement >>>>>of all programmer paricipating in the list. >>>>>they do only publish numbers. stupid numbers. >>>>>i see no other way for millennium company to forbid to publish those silly >>>>>data, than threatening them. licence agreements in europe do count for swedish >>>>>people to. you can believe me. it might be different in US, but many things >>>>>are different in US. >>>>> >>>>>i would do exactly the same if it would be my product. >>>>>if somebody would publish lies about my girl-friend or lies about my >>>>>friends, he would get also similar kind of answer. >>>>>printing lies is not a fair way of competition and not a fair way >>>>>of an "independant organisation". >>>> >>>>Printing games and results of games is not printing lies. >>>>If the autoplayer of chessbase help chessbase then it is important to prove it >>>>but I saw no proof for it. >>>>The fact that you get different results may be because you do not use the same >>>>hardware and is not a proof that the autoplayer of chessbase helps chessbase. >>>> >>>>The ssdf guys tested shredder4 and sent all the games with logfiles to the >>>>programmer and stefan found no problem with the results. >>>>shredder4 is probably number 3 after Fritz and Junior. >>>> >>>>Stefan has no problem with printing the games and the results of shredder4 but >>>>the ssdf do not want to give information about shredder if they have not the >>>>right to print information about other programs of the millenium. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>I didn't get any log file. >>>Stefan >> >>I apologize. >>I believed another person about it but I guess that you know better than him. >> >>Uri >Hi! > >If I have the the time later this evening (from my home) I can send you some of >the games with the same included log files that we have sent to Stefan. > >As I know you are the "master-checker" I guess you can find if there is anything >dubious in the games. > >Bertil It is possible that there is a misunderstanding about the meaning of the word logfiles. The important thing is if stefan could check the games and not if you sent him the logfiles. I am interested to see the games but I have not shredder4 so I cannot check if there are moves that shredder4 cannot reproduce. Uri
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