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Subject: Re: BT2630 questions

Author: Stefan Meyer-Kahlen

Date: 09:29:09 04/14/00

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On April 14, 2000 at 12:27:48, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote:

>On April 13, 2000 at 19:54:41, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On April 13, 2000 at 17:25:43, Will Singleton wrote:
>>
>>>On April 13, 2000 at 10:31:56, Jon Dart wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've been looking at the BT2630 test suite, which I run routinely.
>>>>
>>>>One of the positions is #26:
>>>>
>>>>[D]2r3k1/pbr1q2p/1p2pnp1/3p4/3P1P2/1P1BR3/PB1Q2PP/5RK1 w - - bm f5; id "test 26";
>>>>
>>>>Is f5 really a decisive move here? Currently my program likes g3
>>>>after searching nearly 200 million nodes. At earlier plies it
>>>>selected Re5. They all look pretty reasonable to me. f5 looks
>>>>good : but is it positionally better, or does White get material
>>>>or a decisive attack?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Amateur starts with f5, but drops from a high of about +1 at ply 8 to +0.19 by
>>>ply 12.  I would guess that f5 might not be that much better than the others,
>>>but what do the commercials say?
>>>
>>
>>Hiarcs 6, 30 minutes, 300 mhz -- ce 43; pv f5 Ne4 Bxe4 dxe4 fxg6 Rc2 gxh7+ Kh8
>>d5+ e5 d6 Qe6 Rf8+ Kxh7 Qd1 Rxf8 Qxc2 Qxd6 ;
>>
>>>
>>>>Another one that I'm not passing at present is #13:
>>>>
>>>>[D]2bq3k/2p4p/p2p4/7P/1nBPPQP1/r1p5/8/1K1R2R1 b - - bm Be6; id "test 13";
>>>>
>>>>I used to get Be6, but now on a faster machine it eventually
>>>>switches back to c2+ at ply 12 and holds it.
>>>>
>>>>--Jon
>>>
>>>Mine starts with c2 and stays there, though the score steadily drops, ending at
>>>+2.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Hiarcs 6, 30 minutes, 300 mhz -- ce -31; pv c2+ Kb2 cxd1=Q Rxd1 Ra5 Rf1 Bxg4
>>Qxg4 Rg5 Qf3 a5 h6 d5 exd5 Qd6 Qf8+ Rg8 Qf7 ;
>>
>>I let this one go longer, and about 40 minutes it switched to Be6 with a score
>>of +1.16.  I wonder if any program can find this within 15 minutes?
>>
>>Will
>
>Yes, Shredder can I bet many more.
>Here's the output of my latest version on a PII-450:
>
> 8 ->   0:01.59  +3.88   1...c2+ 2.Kb2 cxd1Q 3.Rxd1 Rh3 4.Rf1 Bb7 5.Qf8+ Qxf8
>6.Rxf8+ Kg7 7.Rf7+ Kh6 8.Re7 Rh2+ 9.Kc1 (203.936) 127.9
> 9.01   0:01.68  +4.13++ 1...c2+ 2.Kb2 cxd1Q 3.Rxd1 Rh3 4.Rf1 Be6 5.Qe5+ dxe5
>6.Rf8+ Qxf8 (214.388) 127.0
> 9.01   0:02.59  +4.35   1...c2+ 2.Kb2 cxd1Q 3.Rxd1 Rh3 4.g5 Bb7 5.Rf1 Nd3+
>6.Bxd3 Rxd3 (325.268) 125.3
> 9 ->   0:03.64  +4.35   1...c2+ 2.Kb2 cxd1Q 3.Rxd1 Rh3 4.g5 Bb7 5.Rf1 Nd3+
>6.Bxd3 Rxd3 (464.672) 127.6
>10.01   0:06.39  +4.30   1...c2+ 2.Kb2 cxd1Q 3.Rxd1 Rh3 4.h6 Rh4 5.Rh1 Bxg4
>(806.220) 126.1
>10 ->   0:24.01  +4.30   1...c2+ 2.Kb2 cxd1Q 3.Rxd1 Rh3 4.h6 Rh4 5.Rh1 Bxg4
>(2.925.188) 121.8
>11.01   0:36.57  +4.05-- 1...c2+ 2.Kb2 cxd1Q 3.Rxd1 Rh3 4.h6 Rh4 5.Rf1 Nc2
>6.Qf8+ Qxf8 (4.274.243) 116.8
>11.01   0:43.31  +3.55-- 1...c2+ 2.Kb2 cxd1Q 3.Rxd1 Rh3 4.h6 Rh4 5.Rf1 Nc2
>6.Kxc2 Bxg4 (5.132.136) 118.4
>11.01   0:55.14  +2.66   1...c2+ 2.Kb2 cxd1Q 3.Rxd1 Rh3 4.h6 Be6 5.Bxe6 Nd3+
>6.Rxd3 Rxd3 7.Qxd6 cxd6 (6.543.072) 118.6
>11.02   1:10.53  +2.67++ 1...Be6 2.Qc1 c2+ 3.Kb2 cxd1N+ 4.Kxa3 Nc2+ 5.Qxc2 Ne3
>6.Qc1 Nxc4+ 7.Kb3 Qb8+ 8.Kc2 c5 9.Qa1 (8.340.119) 118.2
>11.02   1:27.07  +3.02++ 1...Be6 2.Qc1 c2+ 3.Kb2 Bxc4 4.Kxa3 c5 5.Kb2 cxd1Q
>6.Qxd1 Qe7 7.dxc5 dxc5 (10.305.192) 118.3
>11.02   1:51.20  +4.65   1...Be6 2.Qc1 c2+ 3.Kb2 Bxc4 4.Kxa3 c5 5.Kb2 cxd1N+
>6.Qxd1 Nd3+ 7.Kc2 Qf6 8.e5 Qf2+ (12.942.339) 116.3
>11 ->   3:04.65  +4.65   1...Be6 2.Qc1 c2+ 3.Kb2 Bxc4 4.Kxa3 c5 5.Kb2 cxd1N+
>6.Qxd1 Nd3+ 7.Kc2 Qf6 8.e5 Qf2+ (20.768.946) 112.4
>12.01   4:31.25  +4.87   1...Be6 2.Qc1 c2+ 3.Kb2 Bxc4 4.Kxa3 c5 5.Kb2 cxd1N+
>6.Rxd1 Nd3+ 7.Rxd3 Bxd3 (30.401.995) 112.0
>
>Stefan

Sorry, I should have formatted it a bit more :-)

Stefan



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