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Subject: Re: I had a dream !

Author: Chris Whittington

Date: 08:48:05 10/12/97

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On October 12, 1997 at 11:14:26, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>But what is the sense of an organisation that is not helping 2 of the
>best programs to participate ??
>
>I mean: what is the job of the ICCA ?
>Stopping or disorganising a tournament ??
>
>Maybe they WANT tournaments WITHOUT the top programs.
>
>I don't know.
>
>But I know that Hiarcs wants to participate
>and Mchess wants to participate.
>For hiarcs was always space. For Mchess we have now space.
>Marty cannot pay. Mark could pay.
>
>But instead to let them in, they argue about 1000 $ with Marty and about
>status as emerge-pro or professional with Mark.
>
>I always thought the german-burocrats are first rank of europe.
>But it looks even the german burocracy can be topped.

You're asking questions that contain unsound assumptions. Like "why does
the icca organise a tournament where two 'top' program entries founder
on the $1000 issue , this doesn't make sense ? "

No, it doesn't make sense if you assume their goals are the same as
yours. Namely a tournament of all programs etc. etc. etc.

I think their goals are other than these. And, looked at this way,
without assuming that the icca is somehow 'for' computer chess - you can
begin to analyse what their goals might be.

I think the ability to provide all these programs and programmers into a
tournament hall for one week has some sort of, ultimately, financial
value. In other words, they are selling us to somebody, for something.
There has to be some spin-off somewhere. Some benefit in another field,
something. Just like TV companies 'sell' their audience to advertisers.
You don't know you are being sold, you don't know that they own you. But
they do. For this time you're watching the TV program or attending the
tournament, they do.

Something that means it doesn't matter if they upset a few programmers,
because there are always more. Something that says it doesn't really
matter which programs attend, just as long as they can provide the
numbers.

I've been going to these championships for a long time. And, what has
always shocked me is, that if you're not one of some select clique; they
treat you with a cavalier disregard that borders on rudeness. This, and
other examples, is not the behaviour of an organising group that is
interested in computer chess. For sure, from my own direct experience,
they are interested in something else.

Said it before, and will say it again: these icca organisers should
resign; others can and would do their jobs.

Chris Whittington



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