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Subject: Re: I Dicover a new Setting for CM6000, much stronger than CM6666

Author: Marc van Hal

Date: 10:48:40 04/15/00

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On April 15, 2000 at 12:18:39, blass uri wrote:

>On April 15, 2000 at 12:00:48, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On April 15, 2000 at 11:30:02, James wrote:
>>
>>>On April 15, 2000 at 09:18:28, blass uri wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 15, 2000 at 08:30:42, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>So far this has been the best Setting for CM6666, which sometimes even beat
>>>>>Fritz 6a.
>>>>>
>>>>>                   Setting for CM6666
>>>>>
>>>>>Style          Positional            Material
>>>>>
>>>>>AD   3         M/P  -3               OQ   9.9
>>>>>SOP  100       COC 103               OQ   9.7
>>>>>
>>>>>R    0         MOB 104               OR   5.0
>>>>>MSD  20        KS  134               OR   5.0
>>>>>
>>>>>SS   10        PP  100               OB   3.3
>>>>>CFD  0.0       PW  134               OB   3.3
>>>>>
>>>>>TT = ON                              OK   3.2
>>>>>DT = ON                              OK   3.2
>>>>>
>>>>>                                     OP   1.0
>>>>>                                     OP   1.0
>>>>>
>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>By mixing the original Anand Setting with the Material setting from CM6666,  I
>>>>>finally discovered a much stronger setting, which just won a mini match of 50
>>>>>games in 15 minutes per side, using an AMD K6 II 500 Mhz with 128 MB of RAM.
>>>>>When I matched CM6666 setting against my new CM8888, which I just renamed,
>>>>>CM8888 won
>>>>>38 out of 50 games.
>>>>>
>>>>>                       Setting for CM8888
>>>>>
>>>>>Style          Positional            Material
>>>>>
>>>>>AD  5          M/P -5                OQ   9.9
>>>>>SOP 100        COC 105               OQ   9.7
>>>>>
>>>>>R   0          MOB 120               OR   5.0
>>>>>MSD 20         KS  100               OR   4.9
>>>>>
>>>>>SS  8          PP  110               OB   3.2
>>>>>CFD 1.0        PW  100               OB   3.2
>>>>>
>>>>>TT = ON                              OK   3.1
>>>>>DT = ON                              OK   3.1
>>>>>
>>>>>                                     OP   1.0
>>>>>                                     OP   1.0
>>>>>
>>>>>If you already have CM6000, it is very easy to set up a new setting, Just click
>>>>>under Game and Click the set up a Personality, once you set the new values for
>>>>>your new Setting Don't forget to save it. If you are having hard time to set the
>>>>>new setting using your mouse and Bar , simply Click the bar and use your arrows
>>>>>key.
>>>>
>>>>I think that using different values for your queen(rook) and your opponent's
>>>>queen(rook) is a bad idea.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe it works against most programs because they have no idea how to play when
>>>>there are queens in the board(I see that programs without the name chessmaster
>>>>are often bean counters in queens endgames and do not understand the importance
>>>>of passed pawns in these endgames) but I do not believe that it is a good idea
>>>>against chessmaster personalities.
>>>>
>>>>It is not going to be a good idea against other programs when programs get
>>>>better so I suggest to stop suggesting not equal numbers for material.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>
>>I also own Fritz 6a and Junior 6a for more than a month, plus I own an AMD
>>ATHLON 800 Mhz, which I am planning to pit against my new setting of CM8888. I
>>do understand that traditionally the queen and the rook has a value of 9 and 5
>>points, but I  do not see the reason for saying that changing these values will
>>make a program play worst chess.
>
>I only said that using different value for white queen and black queen is not a
>good idea.
>
>I did not say that changing the queen value from 9 to another number is a bad
>idea but only that
>the values 9.9 9.7 are not logical and something like 9.8 for both queens seems
>more logical(it may help to beat other programs but I do not believe that it is
>a good idea against other chess master personalities or for the future when
>programs get better)
>
>Uri
Is it so that the original valeu for the queen and rook is 9 and 5?
like is the valeu of a knight and Bischop 3 the answer is no already Capablanca
gave a valeu for the knight as 3.12 and a Bischop 3.21 but you already know I
don't agree on this too and actualy it is not mobilisation of the pieces but
development wich is important along ith the conections of the other pieces
somethin most programs still don't
Wich means playing a pawn move while it better was to suport that pawn by a
piece first.
The knight also has a higher valeu then a bischop because of this matter to my
opinion but I leave that to you.(it's only my opinion)



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