Author: Tony Hedlund
Date: 10:59:26 04/15/00
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On April 14, 2000 at 12:54:59, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote: >On April 14, 2000 at 12:46:43, Bertil Eklund wrote: > >>On April 14, 2000 at 10:57:27, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote: >> >>>Yes, I have received about 75 games of Shredder but haven't checked them yet. >>>Some programs really have improved during the last months so I am busy working >>>on Shredder. This is my main target right now, if I have some time left I'll >>>check the games but I don't expect any problems. >>> >>>I give you a recent example of some autoplayer problems. This is part of an >>>email I wrote today. I didn't want to publish it first but it might help here. >>> >>>"You know about the autoplayer and all of its weaknesses, just this morning I >>>had a strange behaviour again. I was playing vs. X when X send the save game >>>command to Shredder 3 times in a row. The result was that Shredder saved the >>>last game 3 times and adjusted the display of the match result according to >>>that. Well, Shredder won, so he got 3 points instead of 1 for the game :-) If >>>you don't look very carefully at all the games played with the autoplayer you >>>can get all sorts of wrong results." >> >>Hi! >> >>As I have told you and mr Weiner several times, we partly follows most games and >>check the results of every game. In example Tony Hedlund is a very good player >>and played in the last Swedish correspondence Championship, Bo Aurell another >>tester played in the Swedish Championship in the sixties and I think they can >>see if there are any anomalies. I don't know what persons that test your >>programs, are they only reporting the scorenumbers? I have now played 122 >>tournament games with S4 with only two stops, one game where Hiarcs stopped >>within the opening book and one game where S4 played only one move (1.d4) and >>saved the game as a win for itself, Nimzo saved it as an unexpected end. >> >>So far I can't see what the problem is. S4 has won against Hiarcs and Nimzo and >>looks to crush Tiger (my games). Only one bad loss against F6 a program that >>many people believe is the best for the moment. >> >>If we had been allowed to test S4 when it was new it had probably been number >>one for some time. I believe S4 belongs in the group of Junior6 and Tiger that >>fights for the second place. It looks like Fritz6a have made a big step forward >>and I believe it is the best program for the moment. >> >>I also think that we have been fair against S4 allowing it to use the Turbo-cds, >>that seems to be much more efficient than the original Thomson-CDs. >> >>Bertil >> >>>End of quote. >>>I have just changed the name of the program involved as I don't want to blame >>>anybody. >>> >>>Stefan > >I didn't complain that you have treated Shredder unfair and also don't think so. >For me there is no problem. Also I didn't say storys like the one above happen >at the ssdf. I just wanted to point out that there is so much that can go wrong >using the autoplayer. > >Stefan I must disagree on this. I've played thousands of games with the autoplayer, and I would say that it's very, very little that goes wrong with it. Tony
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