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Subject: Re: I Dicover a new Setting for CM6000, much stronger than CM6666

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:05:52 04/15/00

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On April 15, 2000 at 12:18:39, blass uri wrote:

>On April 15, 2000 at 12:00:48, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On April 15, 2000 at 11:30:02, James wrote:
>>
>>>On April 15, 2000 at 09:18:28, blass uri wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 15, 2000 at 08:30:42, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>So far this has been the best Setting for CM6666, which sometimes even beat
>>>>>Fritz 6a.
>>>>>
>>>>>                   Setting for CM6666
>>>>>
>>>>>Style          Positional            Material
>>>>>
>>>>>AD   3         M/P  -3               OQ   9.9
>>>>>SOP  100       COC 103               OQ   9.7
>>>>>
>>>>>R    0         MOB 104               OR   5.0
>>>>>MSD  20        KS  134               OR   5.0
>>>>>
>>>>>SS   10        PP  100               OB   3.3
>>>>>CFD  0.0       PW  134               OB   3.3
>>>>>
>>>>>TT = ON                              OK   3.2
>>>>>DT = ON                              OK   3.2
>>>>>
>>>>>                                     OP   1.0
>>>>>                                     OP   1.0
>>>>>
>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>By mixing the original Anand Setting with the Material setting from CM6666,  I
>>>>>finally discovered a much stronger setting, which just won a mini match of 50
>>>>>games in 15 minutes per side, using an AMD K6 II 500 Mhz with 128 MB of RAM.
>>>>>When I matched CM6666 setting against my new CM8888, which I just renamed,
>>>>>CM8888 won
>>>>>38 out of 50 games.
>>>>>
>>>>>                       Setting for CM8888
>>>>>
>>>>>Style          Positional            Material
>>>>>
>>>>>AD  5          M/P -5                OQ   9.9
>>>>>SOP 100        COC 105               OQ   9.7
>>>>>
>>>>>R   0          MOB 120               OR   5.0
>>>>>MSD 20         KS  100               OR   4.9
>>>>>
>>>>>SS  8          PP  110               OB   3.2
>>>>>CFD 1.0        PW  100               OB   3.2
>>>>>
>>>>>TT = ON                              OK   3.1
>>>>>DT = ON                              OK   3.1
>>>>>
>>>>>                                     OP   1.0
>>>>>                                     OP   1.0
>>>>>
>>>>>If you already have CM6000, it is very easy to set up a new setting, Just click
>>>>>under Game and Click the set up a Personality, once you set the new values for
>>>>>your new Setting Don't forget to save it. If you are having hard time to set the
>>>>>new setting using your mouse and Bar , simply Click the bar and use your arrows
>>>>>key.
>>>>
>>>>I think that using different values for your queen(rook) and your opponent's
>>>>queen(rook) is a bad idea.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe it works against most programs because they have no idea how to play when
>>>>there are queens in the board(I see that programs without the name chessmaster
>>>>are often bean counters in queens endgames and do not understand the importance
>>>>of passed pawns in these endgames) but I do not believe that it is a good idea
>>>>against chessmaster personalities.
>>>>
>>>>It is not going to be a good idea against other programs when programs get
>>>>better so I suggest to stop suggesting not equal numbers for material.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>
>>I also own Fritz 6a and Junior 6a for more than a month, plus I own an AMD
>>ATHLON 800 Mhz, which I am planning to pit against my new setting of CM8888. I
>>do understand that traditionally the queen and the rook has a value of 9 and 5
>>points, but I  do not see the reason for saying that changing these values will
>>make a program play worst chess.
>
>I only said that using different value for white queen and black queen is not a
>good idea.
>
>I did not say that changing the queen value from 9 to another number is a bad
>idea but only that
>the values 9.9 9.7 are not logical and something like 9.8 for both queens seems
>more logical(it may help to beat other programs but I do not believe that it is
>a good idea against other chess master personalities or for the future when
>programs get better)
>
>Uri

I don't like 9.8 or any such number.  I have watched several programs play
crafty and get into a 3 piece vs queen where they have the queen and think
they are a pawn up.  Generally they are lost.



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