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Subject: Re: What's optimal hashtable size for different time controls?

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 07:12:48 04/16/00

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On April 16, 2000 at 09:54:24, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 15, 2000 at 23:41:57, Marcos Christensen wrote:
>
>>On April 15, 2000 at 22:24:23, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On April 15, 2000 at 18:28:48, Marcos Christensen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 15, 2000 at 17:58:01, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 15, 2000 at 17:14:56, Borges wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 15, 2000 at 16:18:04, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On April 15, 2000 at 15:56:18, Borges wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On April 15, 2000 at 12:44:40, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>>>>  Hi Christophe!
>>>>>>>> I ran an account in ICC, and was able to get more than 3000 points, with no
>>>>>>>>special hardware. The interesting is that it rans with default settings. It
>>>>>>>>appers no coincidence that when i put NSEW=1 and MoreSel=1 tiger became weak
>>>>>>>>(IMHO). The hashtable I have to set up with 32M in 3 0 games and 64M in 5 0
>>>>>>>>games, less than this will result in odd endgames, when tiger sometimes put away
>>>>>>>>a victory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You should really check this carefully. Using 32Mb in 3 0 games kills the
>>>>>>>playing strength, I'm sure about this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Actually I prefer to play with 3 0 time controls, I think that the best
>>>>>>evaluation of Chess Tiger makes the difference. It (or he) appears to smokes
>>>>>>everybody. The contempt value, that is useful, to clean a closed position set to
>>>>>>-15 or -20 is helpful. The only colateral effect of this is probably being
>>>>>>noplayed by crafty ;-) But a BOOK editor will make  difference.
>>>>>>  Congratulation for your program, probably better than you think (intended to
>>>>>>be a joke).
>>>>>>                     Borges
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The only way to get noplayed by crafty is to not read the finger notes.  If
>>>>>you can read, you can play it.  Feel free.  If you can't read, then you will
>>>>>likely get noplayed.
>>>>>
>>>>>But it will have _nothing_ to do with your contempt factor or whatever...
>>>>
>>>>  My grandmother used to say: if you cannot stand the heat get out of the
>>>>kitchen, or, write fi notes. At least singacrafty and data are less greedy about
>>>>rating points.
>>>>
>>>>             Best wishes
>>>>                         Borges
>>>
>>>
>>>My grandfather used to say "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool
>>>than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."  My finger notes are quite
>>>clear.  It is not my intention to play nothing but games vs a single program.
>>>With the manual programs, this has never been a problem, as the operators need
>>>a break after a few games.  But since Tiger is automatic, it became a problem
>>>in that all I would see was games vs tiger.  That doesn't help me detect or
>>>fix problems, and since I am writing this program, I reserve the right to test
>>>it however I want to get maximum benefit from the testing.  I'd _much_ rather
>>>play 100 games vs GM players (as it has the past few days) vs 100 games against
>>>a single chess program.  If I thought _that_ was important I would simply buy a
>>>copy of tiger and play the games offline rather than on a server.
>>>
>>>My opinion, my choice.  I don't see why a "non-author" would want to take pot
>>>shots at what _I_ want to do.  In any case, I am old enough to do what I want,
>>>when I want, how I want...
>>
>>  Hi!
>> Your grandfather was a wise man. I feel sorry that you couldnt talk more with
>>him, but he warned you why. On the rest, I agree 100% with you.
>
>
>I talked with him quite often.  :)
>
>And he never thought I was a fool.  :)

You removed all his doubts? :))

Enrique




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