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Subject: Re: What's optimal hashtable size for different time controls?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:53:44 04/16/00

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On April 16, 2000 at 10:12:48, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On April 16, 2000 at 09:54:24, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 15, 2000 at 23:41:57, Marcos Christensen wrote:
>>
>>>On April 15, 2000 at 22:24:23, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 15, 2000 at 18:28:48, Marcos Christensen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 15, 2000 at 17:58:01, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 15, 2000 at 17:14:56, Borges wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On April 15, 2000 at 16:18:04, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On April 15, 2000 at 15:56:18, Borges wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On April 15, 2000 at 12:44:40, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>>>>>>  Hi Christophe!
>>>>>>>>> I ran an account in ICC, and was able to get more than 3000 points, with no
>>>>>>>>>special hardware. The interesting is that it rans with default settings. It
>>>>>>>>>appers no coincidence that when i put NSEW=1 and MoreSel=1 tiger became weak
>>>>>>>>>(IMHO). The hashtable I have to set up with 32M in 3 0 games and 64M in 5 0
>>>>>>>>>games, less than this will result in odd endgames, when tiger sometimes put away
>>>>>>>>>a victory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You should really check this carefully. Using 32Mb in 3 0 games kills the
>>>>>>>>playing strength, I'm sure about this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Actually I prefer to play with 3 0 time controls, I think that the best
>>>>>>>evaluation of Chess Tiger makes the difference. It (or he) appears to smokes
>>>>>>>everybody. The contempt value, that is useful, to clean a closed position set to
>>>>>>>-15 or -20 is helpful. The only colateral effect of this is probably being
>>>>>>>noplayed by crafty ;-) But a BOOK editor will make  difference.
>>>>>>>  Congratulation for your program, probably better than you think (intended to
>>>>>>>be a joke).
>>>>>>>                     Borges
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The only way to get noplayed by crafty is to not read the finger notes.  If
>>>>>>you can read, you can play it.  Feel free.  If you can't read, then you will
>>>>>>likely get noplayed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But it will have _nothing_ to do with your contempt factor or whatever...
>>>>>
>>>>>  My grandmother used to say: if you cannot stand the heat get out of the
>>>>>kitchen, or, write fi notes. At least singacrafty and data are less greedy about
>>>>>rating points.
>>>>>
>>>>>             Best wishes
>>>>>                         Borges
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>My grandfather used to say "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool
>>>>than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."  My finger notes are quite
>>>>clear.  It is not my intention to play nothing but games vs a single program.
>>>>With the manual programs, this has never been a problem, as the operators need
>>>>a break after a few games.  But since Tiger is automatic, it became a problem
>>>>in that all I would see was games vs tiger.  That doesn't help me detect or
>>>>fix problems, and since I am writing this program, I reserve the right to test
>>>>it however I want to get maximum benefit from the testing.  I'd _much_ rather
>>>>play 100 games vs GM players (as it has the past few days) vs 100 games against
>>>>a single chess program.  If I thought _that_ was important I would simply buy a
>>>>copy of tiger and play the games offline rather than on a server.
>>>>
>>>>My opinion, my choice.  I don't see why a "non-author" would want to take pot
>>>>shots at what _I_ want to do.  In any case, I am old enough to do what I want,
>>>>when I want, how I want...
>>>
>>>  Hi!
>>> Your grandfather was a wise man. I feel sorry that you couldnt talk more with
>>>him, but he warned you why. On the rest, I agree 100% with you.
>>
>>
>>I talked with him quite often.  :)
>>
>>And he never thought I was a fool.  :)
>
>You removed all his doubts? :))
>
>Enrique


Yep, but not in the way you are thinking.  :)



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