Author: Djordje Vidanovic
Date: 18:16:02 04/16/00
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On April 16, 2000 at 16:25:06, Bertil Eklund wrote: >On April 15, 2000 at 21:09:45, Dave Gomboc wrote: > >>On April 13, 2000 at 13:37:13, Thorsten Czub wrote: >> >>You've accused Chessbase's autoplayer of distorting results in the past -- even >>as long as two years ago -- and while you didn't post on that topic for a while, >>it looks like you've jumped on that bandwagon again. Why don't you reply to >>this message, and flat-out accuse ChessBase of writing autoplayer software that >>fraudulently gives programs that are distributed by them an advantage? I can >>only hope that they might then sue you for defamation, because then you might >>learn from that experience that you should be more responsible about what you >>say, and that you should either have actual facts to back up such a serious >>allegation of mispropriety or not make it in the first place. >> >>Dave > >Hi! > >Read the excellent letters from Djordje and Enrique (in english) >in Computerschach-forum > >http://www.computerschach.de/forum/index.html > >Bertil To help out some people read what I wrote in the CSS Forum, I've decided to get it all off my chest and repost here. My posting there was a reaction to the nauseous discussion on the veracity of the SSDF rating list and the alleged role of the autoplayer software as a cheating device: "I held back my opinion on CCC, hoping that ugliness would soon be replaced by normality. However, now that you've brought this issue up again, sort of rubbing salt in my sore wound, I will have to react and say that I simply can't understand some things. First, what is it in the nature of humans to make them wish to topple anybody that sticks out? (Perhaps the notorious psychological syndrome of the Odd Man Out?) Secondly, is it possible for anyone who knows people such as Frans Morsch and Mathias Feist for example, to ever conceive ideas about their plotting to rig up the Autoplayer software so that ChessBase programs will be favoured? Thirdly, if some of the people that have taken part in the discussion on CCC do think that Morsch and Feist are capable of this, why don't they say it out right away? And, when saying this, why don't they offer reproducible and incontrovertible evidence? Otherwise, what they say will be nothing else but hearsay or pure, unadulterated waddle. It appears that some guys have been putting spokes in the wheels of ChessBase for no particular reason other than to disparage them. These people can be either Thorsten Czub or Stefan Meyer-Kahlen, or both of them, as evidenced in the discussion sample. Naturally, Stefan did this in a much subtler manner, dropping hints hither and thither and skulking back when necessary. Czub, lacking sophistication, was forthright and totally solipsistic as expected. Is the autoplayer myth going to become one of the computer chess urban legends? What is actual evidence for any rig-ups, where are the games corroborating the vacuous contention? Just like urban myths, this does not exist. But,on second thought, there are always people gone bonkers who think that little green men come out of sewers or that Aunt Mildred is nothing but an alien that's snatched her body and mind. I earnestly hope that the propaganda chiefs of the Anti ChessBase Crusade will realise that there is only a thin red line that separates them from paranoia." *** Djordje
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