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Subject: Re: Baseless accusations

Author: Stefan Meyer-Kahlen

Date: 03:40:33 04/17/00

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On April 16, 2000 at 16:25:06, Bertil Eklund wrote:

>On April 15, 2000 at 21:09:45, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On April 13, 2000 at 13:37:13, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>
>>>On April 12, 2000 at 21:56:06, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>>I suspect that Millennium GmbH would have an extremely tough time winning in
>>>>court against the SSDF if they did publish results for Genuis 6.5, WChess, etc.
>>>>Nonetheless, it appears that they feel that bullying independent citizen groups
>>>>is a successful marketing strategy.  I can only shake my head.
>>>
>>>look : ssdf published results that are not played out on the base
>>>of a fair competition. the results have been influenced by the autoplayer
>>>device.
>>
>>As far as I can tell, the competition is fair.
>>
>>>millennium company has nothing against a fair competition.
>>>if the ssdf e.g. would (as they have done over the years with the dedicated
>>>machines)
>>>test by hand, nobody would complain.
>>>but they use the chessbase autoplayer device.
>>>the results of this device differ from the device other companies use.
>>>therefore the results are somehow irrelevant.
>>>but the ssdf do nowhere print in their publications that their results
>>>have been "arranged" or "generated" with the
>>>chessbase autoplayer device which is not generally trusted by agreement
>>>of all programmer paricipating in the list.
>>
>>Please list the names of chess program software developers who have programs on
>>the SSDF list but do not trust ChessBase's autoplayer in particular.
>>
>>>they do only publish numbers. stupid numbers.
>>>i see no other way for millennium company to forbid to publish those silly
>>>data, than threatening them. licence agreements in europe do count for swedish
>>>people to. you can believe me. it might be different in US, but many things
>>>are different in US.
>>>
>>>i would do exactly the same if it would be my product.
>>>if somebody would publish lies about my girl-friend or lies about my
>>>friends, he would get also similar kind of answer.
>>>printing lies is not a fair way of competition and not a fair way
>>>of an "independant organisation".
>>>
>>>>Dave
>>
>>You've accused Chessbase's autoplayer of distorting results in the past -- even
>>as long as two years ago -- and while you didn't post on that topic for a while,
>>it looks like you've jumped on that bandwagon again.  Why don't you reply to
>>this message, and flat-out accuse ChessBase of writing autoplayer software that
>>fraudulently gives programs that are distributed by them an advantage?  I can
>>only hope that they might then sue you for defamation, because then you might
>>learn from that experience that you should be more responsible about what you
>>say, and that you should either have actual facts to back up such a serious
>>allegation of mispropriety or not make it in the first place.
>>
>>Dave
>
>Hi!
>
>Read the excellent letters from Djordje and Enrique (in english)
>in Computerschach-forum
>
>http://www.computerschach.de/forum/index.html
>
>Bertil

I am very sorry that this discussion was taken to another, unmoderated forum. I
got attacked in those postings and I don't quite understand why they were not
posted here.

I am also very sorry that the authors of those postings apparently didn't get my
point of view and I am afraid that there is not much I can do about it.

Stefan



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