Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 08:13:54 04/17/00
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On April 17, 2000 at 09:52:02, Jorge Pichard wrote: >On April 15, 2000 at 23:05:52, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 15, 2000 at 12:18:39, blass uri wrote: >> >>>On April 15, 2000 at 12:00:48, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>On April 15, 2000 at 11:30:02, James wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 15, 2000 at 09:18:28, blass uri wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 15, 2000 at 08:30:42, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>So far this has been the best Setting for CM6666, which sometimes even beat >>>>>>>Fritz 6a. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Setting for CM6666 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Style Positional Material >>>>>>> >>>>>>>AD 3 M/P -3 OQ 9.9 >>>>>>>SOP 100 COC 103 OQ 9.7 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>R 0 MOB 104 OR 5.0 >>>>>>>MSD 20 KS 134 OR 5.0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>SS 10 PP 100 OB 3.3 >>>>>>>CFD 0.0 PW 134 OB 3.3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>TT = ON OK 3.2 >>>>>>>DT = ON OK 3.2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OP 1.0 >>>>>>> OP 1.0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>By mixing the original Anand Setting with the Material setting from CM6666, I >>>>>>>finally discovered a much stronger setting, which just won a mini match of 50 >>>>>>>games in 15 minutes per side, using an AMD K6 II 500 Mhz with 128 MB of RAM. >>>>>>>When I matched CM6666 setting against my new CM8888, which I just renamed, >>>>>>>CM8888 won >>>>>>>38 out of 50 games. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I Should call this setting the CM-Queen >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Style Positional Material >>>>>>> >>>>>>>AD 5 M/P -5 OQ 9.5 (My new Adjustment) >>>>>>>SOP 100 COC 105 OQ 9.4 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>R 0 MOB 120 OR 5.0 >>>>>>>MSD 20 KS 100 OR 4.9 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>SS 8 PP 110 OB 3.2 >>>>>>>CFD 1.0 PW 100 OB 3.2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>TT = ON OK 3.1 >>>>>>>DT = ON OK 3.1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OP 1.0 >>>>>>> OP 1.0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If you already have CM6000, it is very easy to set up a new setting, Just click >>>>>>>under Game and Click the set up a Personality, once you set the new values for >>>>>>>your new Setting Don't forget to save it. If you are having hard time to set the >>>>>>>new setting using your mouse and Bar , simply Click the bar and use your arrows >>>>>>>key. >>>>>> >>>>>>I think that using different values for your queen(rook) and your opponent's >>>>>>queen(rook) is a bad idea. >>>>>> >>>>>>Maybe it works against most programs because they have no idea how to play when >>>>>>there are queens in the board(I see that programs without the name chessmaster >>>>>>are often bean counters in queens endgames and do not understand the importance >>>>>>of passed pawns in these endgames) but I do not believe that it is a good idea >>>>>>against chessmaster personalities. >>>>>> >>>>>>It is not going to be a good idea against other programs when programs get >>>>>>better so I suggest to stop suggesting not equal numbers for material. >>>>>> >>>>>>Uri >>>> >>>>I also own Fritz 6a and Junior 6a for more than a month, plus I own an AMD >>>>ATHLON 800 Mhz, which I am planning to pit against my new setting of CM8888. I >>>>do understand that traditionally the queen and the rook has a value of 9 and 5 >>>>points, but I do not see the reason for saying that changing these values will >>>>make a program play worst chess. >>> >>>I only said that using different value for white queen and black queen is not a >>>good idea. >>> >>>I did not say that changing the queen value from 9 to another number is a bad >>>idea but only that >>>the values 9.9 9.7 are not logical and something like 9.8 for both queens seems >>>more logical(it may help to beat other programs but I do not believe that it is >>>a good idea against other chess master personalities or for the future when >>>programs get better) >>> >>>Uri >> >>I don't like 9.8 or any such number. I have watched several programs play >>crafty and get into a 3 piece vs queen where they have the queen and think >>they are a pawn up. Generally they are lost. > >You are definitively wright about this high queen value Mr Hyatt, I Just found >out that CM8888 lost to CM6666 in game in 60 minutes per side where CM6666 >setting had two Bishops a knight and a pawn, Versus CM8888 setting which had a >Queen and a pawn and at that time CM8888 thought that it was winning by a small >fraction of a point. My solution was to change the value of the queen to 9.5, >since the bishop is already set up to 3.2 and knight to 3.1. I started the same >game before the critical exchange took place and observed the game carefully, >sure enough the small evaluation problem was corrected, and the same game was >won by CM8888, (or should I rename it CM-Queen Setting.) > >PS: The score at this point is CM8888 W3 L1 D1 at game in 60 minutes per side, >CM6666 is loosing game number 6 so far, by having a bishop and two pawns Vs >CM8888 a rook and 1 pawn and the bishop will soon have to be exchange to avoid >the pawn from promoting into a queen next move. Ah Ha , I just glanced at the >game and the exchange took place, leaving CM6666 with a lost position.
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