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Subject: Re: Great Game by Rebel!!!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 17:55:43 04/17/00

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On April 17, 2000 at 13:30:47, Ed Schröder wrote:

>
>Thanks for your explanations, I guess your majority code is better than
>mine. To me evaluating majorities makes no sense in the middle-game,
>some sense in the early end-game and is often decisive in pawn endings
>and that's why Rebel (for instance) allowed the queen exchange as other
>aspects of the evaluation are dominant

I did it the way I chose, because I tried such 'discontinuous' evaluation
terms over the years and they _always_ caused problems.  IE if you wait until
some mystical point "x" to turn off king safety and turn on endgame code, you
make gross errors around that boundary.

I was fearful of reaching a lost pawn ending while having so many pieces
on the board that it wasn't important.  But then the opponent might find
ways to force pieces off, and there I am, lost, when I step over the edge
and turn on the endgame analysis.





> But it surely makes sense to
>reconsider the whole majority topic from scratch especially in pawn
>endings. Not that I am looking forward to it as it is complicated stuff
>with high chances of overseeing the numerous exceptional cases. But Rebel
>surely can be improved here.
>
>Ed
>
>PS, it seems to me that Harald is right about 31.Nb6! / Nd7 and Nb8!
>I will ask Mr. Smyslov for his opinion.


Crafty was suggesting different moves at several points.  In many cases,
the differences were transpositions.  In a couple, the score dropped way down
after his move was played...  and by way down I mean from say +.6 to +.3, as
at the move 36. g3...

But back to the discussion, majorities are interesting (as are actual
candidate and real passers.  And I think we have to do well there or else we
expose such a big weakness we start off in trouble without knowing it.

I know I see way too many things like that going wrong in what I do...  but I
am trying to fix them as I recognize them.



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