Author: Roger D Davis
Date: 23:10:42 04/18/00
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I don't think anyone is going to care if you charge $10 for the CD. I'd just contact the authors and get their permission to include their engine, and state that you are asking $10 to pay for the materials, shipping, burning, your tutorial, and your time. Time is going to be a very big investment at the beginning, since you have to download everything and get it working. If someone objected, their engine just would not be included. They should have the right to refuse, I think that's only fair, though I doubt anyone would if the mission is clear and the price is right. You could also fix it so that it did an automatic install into Fritz and other Chessbase programs. So it doesn't have to be limited to Winboard. Could even include Palm programs. You could set up an FTP site and offer the disc image for download (for folks who have DSL and cable modems, obviously), for $10 billed to their credit card. That would eliminate your shipping costs. Roger On April 18, 2000 at 23:44:18, Michael Cummings wrote: >On April 18, 2000 at 21:43:00, Pete Galati wrote: > >>On April 18, 2000 at 21:27:35, Michael Cummings wrote: >> >>>On April 18, 2000 at 13:55:56, Pete Galati wrote: >>> >>>>On April 18, 2000 at 13:14:48, Roger D Davis wrote: >>>> >>>>I don't understand, if there is some mat'l changing hands, then that _has_ to be >>>>paid for, so it can't be free. And it's not that I want to begrudge the >>>>programmers some money, but I feel that involving money going to the programmers >>>>would taint their efforts, people who's programs were not included on the CD >>>>would be able to say "Why not mine? Where's _my_ money?". >>>> >>>>On the other hand, money going to the GNU organazation would be supporting >>>>something that's proven to be very usefull to everyone, but then on the other >>>>hand again, not everyone releases their programs under GNU license, so there >>>>would be a disapointing selection of programs released on such a CD. >>>> >>>>One thing _I'd_ like to see, would be programs that are released for free like >>>>Winboard offered in smaller packages, so that someone who has to get them from >>>>the library's computers has a way to get them home one a floppy disc! As a >>>>matter of fact, you only need about 3 files to have Winboard up and working, you >>>>need winboard.exe, winboard.hlp, and winboard.ini. And that's all you need, and >>>>you'll have a working Winboard on your computer, and that's only 1.22mb, so you >>>>can download that at any computer and bring that much home on a floppy! But in >>>>order to _get_ that, you gotta download a file that's just over 2100k now. Now >>>>that you _can't_ get home on a floppy. So people who don't have internet access >>>>are up a creek as far as one of the greatest Chess programs out there goes. >>>> >>>>And as a matter of fact, I don't need that whole pile of files every time >>>>there's a Winboard upgrade, and I also don't see any need for the >>>>"installation", that's close to useless. >>>> >>>>Pete >>> >>>They would at least have to cover the cost for the material and shipping, and a >>>small charge for the burning process, but then someone would be doing it for the >>>love if just doing it, whats the point when no profit is made. >>> >>>If I did it, I would do it and cahrge about $10 Australian all up for my effort >>>and time. I would probably add an autoplay feature when the cd is insertered >>>into the drive that a little interactive screen comes up going through the >>>basics of using the thing and maybe an install feature to get them installed. My >>>macromedia software would get this all done easily and would clearly make up for >>>the $10 charge. My opening screen and in built tutorials would take more effort >>>than writing these programs :) >>> >>>maybe I should actually create an indepth tutorial and presentations on >>>something and sell it :) >>> >>>Damn you have just all given me something to look into. Have to use my >>>macromedia Authorware for something you know :) >> >>Hey, go for it, some people will be greatfull if they know about your efforts. >>I don't have a clue what would be involved in meeting all the licensing >>aggreements, so you'd want to check with each individual program author before >>etching their programs in. I'm sure that the vast majority of them will be here >>members at CCC. >> >>Why not form a draft of the list of programs you're considering and then start >>asking the programmers for approval? >> >>Pete > >I would base most of it around interactive stuff I think. Tutorials and >presentations and stuff. And put the major profit around that. Since the >programs are free ware, apart from the distribution, I would have to make it so >my product I make will account for the profit, and make sure that the freeware >engines are not being the magor part of the product, so that would hopefully >bybass any of them. Cause it would not be their product that I would be making >money from, their stuff would be an extra. And my product the main selling. > >All this would be a little way off yet, but I would look into it. > >So the final product that would sell would be my product, and I would not use >their stuff as the major part of the deal. Just added freeware extras. That way >I hope I would produce something that would sell on its own, which I think I can >do. > >It would take some looking into.
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