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Subject: Re: What PC config do you use?

Author: Gordon Rattray

Date: 03:26:32 04/19/00

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On April 18, 2000 at 16:37:19, Wayne Lowrance wrote:

>On April 18, 2000 at 14:26:58, Dan Andersson wrote:
>
>>What are the chipsets of the machines? i820 is a piece of crap btw. RDRAM might
>>not be such a great idea for the Transposition Table (Hash table), it has been
>>debated before. And I personally preferr the VIA KX133 chipset for the Athlon.
>>If you can wait a little time with your buy I would reccomend that, as there are
>
>I agree
>
>>some new Athlon CPUs on the way and corresponding new motherboards using DDR
>>memory chips.
>
>There are now 5 total motherboards out now that I am aware of, (Ref Toms page).
>Support for the AMD 1 gig chip is very very slow coming from the motherboard
>people.
>
>I have not found the site for the Dell 1 gig. Where you getting that . info>
>


http://www.euro.dell.com/countries/uk/enu/dhs/products/series_dimen_desktops.htm

Look at their Dimension XPS B systems.  The top-end are based on 1GHz PIIIs.


>Concerning the Gateway computer: Have you asked what size the L2 is and _at what
>clock speed?_. The Athylon is configured for speed options off of  the core
>clock. I have not been able to get a reasonable answer from Gateway on the clock
>speed, The size is 512!


The spec I looked at also said 512K L2 cache.  I've don't know what clock speed.


>Compaq also offeres the 1 Gig Athylon, and is less expensive, but have not been
>able to get help from their tech people, what platform are they shipping  and L2
>configuration, they do not respond. So right now know this, the Athylon permits
>OEM's the ability to configure Athylons for a relativly inexpensive computer at
>the expense of performance. Chances are the Athylon 1 gig's incorporated now are
>tuned down from what Tom has been using.
>On that subject visit Tom's page again, he has quite different results on the
>comparison of Pent/Athylons now based on different platforms from previous
>testing. The Pent comparison only looses to AMD on FPU performance alone.
>
>I have just about independantly decided to wait a scosh and see what develops.
>

I think I will be waiting too.


>One thing for sure, regarding the Pent/Athylon 1gigs, the Athylon raw FPU is
>very much faster than the Pent.
>
>Is this a first order Paramater importance in Chess Programs  I dunno, Not a
>programmer.
>

I don't think FPU performance is significant for chess analysis, so the Pentium
appears to be more suitable in this respect.


>How important is L2 buss speed for chess programs. Example comparing core/2 or
>core/3 ?, I am afraid units are bing shipped now with Motherboards configured
>with core/3. A Gateway dude said that the L2 was 400 mhz for Gateway configured
>motherboard (faster than that he said would fry the cpu, hummmm). The only
>Problem is 400 mhz apparently is not one of the options for L2 clock, makes one
>wonder.
>
>I give three cheers for Gateway, Compaq and apparently Dell for quick response
>to the AMD 1 gig cpu. Others will follow and who knows maybe even Dr. Bob will
>buy one. (only kdding Doc)
>
>Wayne


Thanks
Gordon



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