Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 08:51:17 10/13/97
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On October 12, 1997 at 19:48:32, Fernando Villegas wrote: >I am really amazed reading the post where ICCA executives are almost >accused of some kind of plot and/or trying to sell people to third >parties and/or trying to become rich just exploiting poor programmers , >and all this agressive noise just because they ask 1000 bucks to those >commercial programmers that want to be part of the party in Paris. You seem to misunderstand the reason for the critics. The critics was not exactly that 1000$ barrier, but the way the ICCA differenciates between amateurs, professionals, and in between. Also for somebody having not much money, for whatever reason, 1000 $ are too much. Why not helping this guy ? Isn't it senseful to have a strong tournament with good programs. I think in human chess the tournament-sponsor has to pay the players (karpov, Kasparov) that they come anyway. >Is 1000 bucks so much money? >So badly goes things in this industry that commercial programmers -that >sell each of his products at 150 dollars- cannot pay $1000? Right. You seem to have not much ideas about HOW MUCH MONEY goes in the end to the programmer. From the 100 $ product 25 $ goes (MAYBE !!) to the programmer. > What I see here is that all the time there are many reasons for some >poeple for not going. Once is a political reason: Jakarta was not >adequate because of the people that rules that country. Right. This is seen accurate ! >Then the >tournament is not fair because some people in the ICCA does not gives >the due salutations and reverences to this or that guy; now is money, >because, as anybody can see, with 1000 bucks in the pocket this people >could fly to Monaco and expend a week with an army of girls. >What's next? Right. Thats a question we all ask ourselves: what is the next thing the ICCA plans to disqualify people ? >I don't believe 1000 is too much money to get the chance to get a good >position and then to use it as advertising. Even if you cannoit get the >first prize, you always can say that your program got a point against >this or that other program, as Chris has made once with CST and Genius. >Or that your program got the fastest winning. Or that your program was >the best, provided his slow hardaware. Or that you won the prettiest >game of the tournament. Or this or that. I don't know any program that >ever has been in a tournament that has not got specious reasons to >proclaim that very same tournament as a wonderful motive to buy it. >So, if this kind of tournament becomes, as ever, a good launching >platform for almost any guy that goes there -like in movies festivals >theses days-, it seems to me that paying 1000 cannot be reasonnably >considered as abusive. After all, we are talking of COMMERCIAL guys, not >amateurs, not poor genuses, not deprived people. Commercial guys ! aha. Like Stefan-Mayer Kahlen, Mark Uniacke, Chris Whittington ? Chris has not released any version since anno domini 199x whatever... Mark has a full time job in a non-computerchess business Stefan is also not the BIG commercial guy you would expect. > Maybe what some people want is that ICCA does not organize nothing at >all. They could organize it with more feeling for the belongings of the participants.
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