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Subject: Re: It's not big, It's huge...

Author: Jason Williamson

Date: 17:23:34 04/19/00

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On April 19, 2000 at 10:11:19, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 19, 2000 at 03:27:43, Jason Williamson wrote:
>
>>On April 18, 2000 at 23:47:01, Pete Galati wrote:
>>
>>>[......]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just out of curiosity, do you ever offer a pgn collection of the games that
>>>>>>>Crafty plays online?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pete
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes.. there is a huge pgn file on the ftp site (I am not sure exactly which
>>>>>>directory).  It is called "crafty.pgn" I think...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But note it is _big_.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is big!  It's in the games directory, it's 19.7mb in a Gzipped file.  Anyone
>>>>>using Netscape will have to right click on the file to be able to download it as
>>>>>crafty.pgn.gz, otherwise it will want to save as crafty.pgn.pgn if you left
>>>>>click, and you'll undoubtably have trouble unzipping it if it saves that way.
>>>>>
>>>>>Pete
>>>
>>>When you unzip this file, you end up with a pgn file that's 93.4mb, it's a bit
>>>on the hard side to open it or edit it.  Forget about Winboard or Chessbase Lite
>>>(at least on my computer) it's just too big.  Extreme Chess seems to have been
>>>able to open it, PFE can open it.  There seems to be 60,238 games.  They're not
>>>in completly standard formatting that everyone is used to with pgn, everything
>>>is in neat columns (extra spaces between moves to maintain the columns).
>>>
>>>This must have been Gzipped at maximum compression.  If I keep this file I'll
>>>remove the odd formating & spaces.  Who the heck is Bluebeard?  Heck of a rating
>>>he has.
>>>
>>>Pete
>>
>>
>>I am gonna guess that some of the pgn problems in that file stems from the fact
>>that it dates back to something like 1992 or something.
>>
>>Jason :)
>
>
>They aren't that old.  Crafty has only been around about 5 years or so.
>However, those games are played by crafty/scrappy on ICC, ICS (before it
>changed to ICC), FICS, and chess.net.  most like the 'column' format although
>it is not very 'compact' for storage...  If someone wants to run it thru
>a program like chessbase and then back out again to make it smaller I will
>certainly put the new version on my ftp site.
I will do it this weekend for you.



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