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Subject: Re: It's not big, It's huge...

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 19:24:14 04/19/00

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On April 19, 2000 at 20:23:34, Jason Williamson wrote:

>On April 19, 2000 at 10:11:19, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 19, 2000 at 03:27:43, Jason Williamson wrote:
>>
>>>On April 18, 2000 at 23:47:01, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>
>>>>[......]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Just out of curiosity, do you ever offer a pgn collection of the games that
>>>>>>>>Crafty plays online?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Pete
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes.. there is a huge pgn file on the ftp site (I am not sure exactly which
>>>>>>>directory).  It is called "crafty.pgn" I think...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But note it is _big_.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It is big!  It's in the games directory, it's 19.7mb in a Gzipped file.  Anyone
>>>>>>using Netscape will have to right click on the file to be able to download it as
>>>>>>crafty.pgn.gz, otherwise it will want to save as crafty.pgn.pgn if you left
>>>>>>click, and you'll undoubtably have trouble unzipping it if it saves that way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pete
>>>>
>>>>When you unzip this file, you end up with a pgn file that's 93.4mb, it's a bit
>>>>on the hard side to open it or edit it.  Forget about Winboard or Chessbase Lite
>>>>(at least on my computer) it's just too big.  Extreme Chess seems to have been
>>>>able to open it, PFE can open it.  There seems to be 60,238 games.  They're not
>>>>in completly standard formatting that everyone is used to with pgn, everything
>>>>is in neat columns (extra spaces between moves to maintain the columns).
>>>>
>>>>This must have been Gzipped at maximum compression.  If I keep this file I'll
>>>>remove the odd formating & spaces.  Who the heck is Bluebeard?  Heck of a rating
>>>>he has.
>>>>
>>>>Pete
>>>
>>>
>>>I am gonna guess that some of the pgn problems in that file stems from the fact
>>>that it dates back to something like 1992 or something.
>>>
>>>Jason :)
>>
>>
>>They aren't that old.  Crafty has only been around about 5 years or so.
>>However, those games are played by crafty/scrappy on ICC, ICS (before it
>>changed to ICC), FICS, and chess.net.  most like the 'column' format although
>>it is not very 'compact' for storage...  If someone wants to run it thru
>>a program like chessbase and then back out again to make it smaller I will
>>certainly put the new version on my ftp site.
>I will do it this weekend for you.

How about you send both the Chessbase format (.cbh?) and the reduced sized pgn?
Reason being, that a database with >60,000 games load pretty fast in a Chessbase
format, but it takes a very long time in pgn.

Pete



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