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Subject: Re: Bushinksy says No GM will be able to win against a comp in 8 game match!

Author: Paulo Soares

Date: 22:44:47 04/19/00

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On April 20, 2000 at 01:20:32, blass uri wrote:

>On April 20, 2000 at 01:16:44, Paulo Soares wrote:
>
>>On April 19, 2000 at 23:56:39, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On April 19, 2000 at 23:39:03, Paulo Soares wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 19, 2000 at 23:31:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 19, 2000 at 23:19:22, Drazen Marovic wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In around 3 years Bushinsky hypothesizes no human can win in an 8 game match.
>>>>>>Well If deep blue is rebuilt and upgraded then yes, oterwise no IMHO.  PC comps
>>>>>>will be between 2500 and 2680 for the next 8 years IMHO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Shay Bushinsky answers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The term unbeatable is a very tough word indeed. I cannot say that a computer
>>>>>>will ever be unbeatable in any given game in the near future, but I do see a
>>>>>>time - maybe in about three years from now, when a computer will always prevail
>>>>>>in an 8 game match against the strongest human "
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Taken from the kasparov site
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I also expect to see a pig flying in about 3 years, +/- 50 years.  :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In 10 years, this _might_ be true.  I don't think in 3 years however..
>>>>
>>>>Why 10 years?
>>>>
>>>>Paulo Soares, from Brazil
>>>
>>>that is about how far we are behind the hardware speed of deep blue, based on
>>>classic Moore's law.  It is only a wild guess...  I would say 10 years at
>>>least...  maybe more...  and only if Moore's law holds...
>>
>>Moore's law: "To every 18 months the processors double the speed". In 10
>>years=120 months, we will have 120/18=6 times in that the processors will
>>double the speed, what means that in 10 years we will have processors with
>>approximately 1Gz(actual frequency) x 2(6) = 64 Gz!
>>But about the software, you don't think the development of the software will
>>have a weight reasonable on these ten years?
>>
>>Paulo
>
>I think the developement of software can also help humans because there will be
>better software to teach humans to play better.
>
>Uri

I think that in the next 10 years softwares will help the humans to learn
to play the chess better, but I think the main learning will be in relation to
the openings. Then I believe that in ten years the programs will have a
relative advantage in relation to the midlegames  and endgames.

Paulo



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