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Subject: Re: A good opening book can be a deciding factor of any Top program

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 18:34:50 04/20/00

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On April 20, 2000 at 21:28:44, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On April 20, 2000 at 17:35:01, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On April 20, 2000 at 10:23:07, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>Since the Strong.obk Book seems to work better for CMQueen+ I decided to pit it
>>>in a 1hr/per side game. Using my AHLON 800 Mhz since I am in the process of
>>>reformating my second P.C. K6-2 500 Mhz. I prefer to use my second AMD K6-2 500
>>>Mhz, since most people average to have an equivalent or lesser processor
>>>nowadays.
>>>
>>>[Title "CM-SS10 vs CMQueen+ (using Strong.obk Book)]
>>>[Game in 60 minutes per side]
>>>[Date "2000.04.20"]
>>>[White "CM-SS10"]
>>>[Black "CMQueen+"]
>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>
>>>
>>>1.e4  d6  2.d4  Nf6  3.Nc3  g6  4.f4  Bg7  5.Nf3 0-0  6.Be6 b6  7.Bd3 Bb7
>>>8.f5  c5  9.0-0 Ng4  10.Qe2 Nxe3 11.Qxe3 Nc6  12.d5 Nb4  13.a3 Nxd3  14.Qxd3 a5
>>>15.fxg6 hxg6  16.Rfe1 Ba6  17.Qe3 e5  18.a4 f5  19.Nb5 Qd7  20.c4 Bxb5
>>>21.axb5 Qe7  22.Ra3 Ra7  23.Rea1 Qf6  24.Rf1 Raf7  25.Nd2 Qh4  26.Qe2 Bh6
>>>27.Qh3 Qg5  28.Rd1 Qf4  29.Rg3 Kg7  30.Rd3 Qh4  31.exf5 Bxd2  32.R3xd3 Rxf5
>>>33.Rc1 e4  34.Rdc2 Qf6  35.h3 Qd4+  36.Kh2 Rf2 37.Qg4 e3  38.Rc3 R8f5
>>>39.Qg3 e2  40.Re3 Rf1  41.Rc2 Qxe3  42.Qxe3 e1=Q  43.Qxe1 Rxe1  44.b3 Re3
>>>45.Rb2 Rf1  46.h4 Rf4  47.Kg1 Re1+  48.Kh2 Rxh4+  49.Kg3 Rhh1  50.Kf4 Rb1
>>>51.Re2 Rhe1  52.Re6 Rxe6  53.dxe6 Rxb3  54.e7 Kf7  55.Ke4 a4  56.Kd5 a3
>>>57.Kc6 Kxe7  58.Kxb6 Kd7  59.g3 a2  60.Kb7 a1=Q  61.g4 Qa5  62.g5 Qc7+
>>>63 Ka6 Ra3++  0-1
>>>
>>>PS: From now on I will only use the Strong.obk Book with the CMQueen+ setting,
>>>since it seems to be the best Book available in Chessmater 6000 Books Library,
>>>but later on I will test the Mentor.obk which has an even larger Book but not
>>>necessarily the best.
>>
>>
>>This is just one game.
>>I assumed you had already tested with the anand book.
>>CM 6666 v CMQueen+ anandV W 14 L 6 D 5
>>The CM6K book was made for the 6000 so I'll stick with that
>>as that is the most tuned book.
>>
>>Thanks.
>
>Yes I already have done some test with the Anand book and they are too close to
>decide which is stronger. By coincidence you left this original book of CM6000
>when you decided to test my setting which I am very glad that you did and it
>turn out that it is a better book than Anand book in CM6000 book library.
>Therefore, it is more appropriate to call it CMQueen+ since you finally made
>the final adjustment to my setting. I do notice that in order to test which
>setting is stronger, you either test is without a book, and I believe CM6000
>has an option called nobook.obk or either lowbook.obk I will have to check just
>to make sure I believe it has only 1k and this is to allow CM6000 to pick the
>first move and then it play by itself from that point on. And the other option
>to find which setting is the stronger, is to select the same opening book for
>both settings, which you already have done in your first testing, the only
>incovenience of this choice is that it produces too many duplicated games. But
>either way  you choose, it will let you know which setting is the strongest
>without the advantage of one opening book being better than the other. These two
>different tests, which is giving you two different results so far clearly has
>demonstrated that a good opening book can affect tremendously the rating
>performance of any program. Therefore Fritz 6 just by having a better opening
>book can easily outperform Junior 6 for instance in the first 10 ten moves
>which from that point on it is very hard for the other programs to take the lead
>and  finally win the game.



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