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Subject: Re: CMQueen+ (CM6000.OBK) vs CMQueen+ ( Strong.obk Book) W21 L18 D11

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 05:11:36 04/22/00

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On April 21, 2000 at 21:01:17, Michael Cummings wrote:

>On April 21, 2000 at 10:59:32, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On April 21, 2000 at 08:39:38, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Fritz took the CM apart in this game. CM seems to miss
>>>15. Qb3+ it's 14th move....Nf8 is questionable.
>>>
>>>Score F6a 2-1/2 CM 6666 1-1/2 one to play.
>>>
>>>[Event "Easter Tourney blitz 60 Final"]
>>>[Site "Scarb"]
>>>[Date "2000.04.21"]
>>>[Round "Final"]
>>>[White "Fritz 6a"]
>>>[Black "CM6666"]
>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>[PlyCount "65"]
>>>
>>>} 1. e4 {0} 1... Nf6 {10} 2. e5 {0} 2... Nd5 {4}
>>>3. d4 {0} 3... d6 {4} 4. Nf3 {0} 4... g6 {4} 5. Bc4 {0} 5... Nb6 {5} 6. Bb3 {0}
>>>6... Bg7 {4} 7. a4 {0} 7... dxe5 {173} 8. a5 {0} 8... N6d7 {82} 9. Bxf7+ {0}
>>>9... Kxf7 {26} 10. Ng5+ {0} 10... Kg8 {29} 11. Ne6 {0} 11... Qe8 {35} 12. Nxc7
>>>{0} 12... Qd8 {54} 13. Nxa8 {0} 13... exd4 {42} 14. c3 {0} 14... Nf8 {80} 15.
>>>Qb3+ {1.25/11 175} 15... Ne6 {61} 16. O-O {1.31/12 39} 16... Na6 {37} 17. cxd4
>>>{1.47/11 194} 17... Kf8 {127} 18. Be3 {1.78/12 112} 18... Nxd4 {7} 19. Bxd4 {
>>>1.75/12 61} 19... Bxd4 {7} 20. Nc3 {1.75/12 65} 20... Nc5 {67} 21. Qa3 {
>>>1.91/12 28} 21... Kg7 {152} 22. Nb5 {2.50/12 125} 22... Bg4 {6} 23. Nac7 {
>>>2.66/11 71} 23... e5 {97} 24. Nxd4 {2.94/11 38} 24... Qxc7 {35} 25. Nb5 {
>>>3.03/12 43} 25... Qe7 {29} 26. Rfc1 {3.22/12 0} 26... Rc8 {61} 27. Nxa7 {
>>>3.75/12 0} 27... Rc7 {57} 28. Nb5 {4.06/12 0} 28... Rc8 {97} 29. Rc2 {
>>>4.19/11 40} 29... Bf5 {57} 30. Rc3 {5.00/12 0} 30... Be4 {53} 31. Re1 {
>>>5.41/11 0} 31... Bd5 {48} 32. b4 {5.94/12 0} 32... Qg5 {31} 33. g3 {6.00/12 0}
>>>1-0
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>Finally I verified your assumption that CM6000.OBK is the strongest book tuned
>>just for CM6000. I tested the same CMQueen+ setting using the two candidates
>>book openings CM6000.OBK vs Strong.obk which I thought were the strongest
>>available in the Chessmaster library using my AMD Ahlon 800 Mhz. The time for
>>the match was game in 10 minutes per side 50 games total.
>>
>>Thanks.
>
>I have not paid much notice to these games, but which book did you think was the
>strongest. CM6000.OBK is the strongest, the mentor.OBK or whatever is called is
>exactly the same, but it has a few notes that the help and the tutorial uses. So
>I have seen some people say the mentor is stronger than CM6000.OBK, thats funny
>and strange when it is the same book.
>
>I just hope you have used satisfactory settings, do not use any more than 2 meg
>hash for these short games, otherwise this will affect the games if they are too
>big.
>
>When you play about 200 more games, then I will look more closely at your
>results, I have played enough games battling chessmaster against chessmaster
>personalities to know 50 games means very little. Cause when you play those 50
>games again, the result can vary dramatically.
>
>You want to know another result that is also funny, over 20 20minutes games, the
>Karpov personality beat the Chessmaster by winning 14 games ?????

I do not care much for the original Chessmaster personality, since it lost very
bad to my CMQueen+ personality setting Using the CM6000.OBK book, long before I
started to post my finding on this message board, therefore, only then knowing
that I discover this strong setting I Started to switch from one book to another
just to find out that the original CM6000.OBK (default book) is indeed the
strongest.

PS: If you still remember how to set the CMQueen+ setting, Please do me a favor
and pit it against the Karpov personality, recommend to use a time setting of a
minimum of 1 hr/per side, pit it as many times as you are satisfied or in the
case when one setting is winning by a large margin, then  it becomes useless to
continue playing beyong 50 games.



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