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Subject: When does the 50th move rule begins?

Author: Laurence Chen

Date: 09:45:12 04/22/00

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On April 22, 2000 at 12:09:40, blass uri wrote:

>On April 22, 2000 at 11:39:51, Laurence Chen wrote:
>
>>On April 22, 2000 at 11:26:16, Laurence Chen wrote:
>>
>>>On April 22, 2000 at 10:51:27, Pierre Bourget wrote:
>>>
>>>>Is it true in this position that Hiarcs play Qf7+ ?? because of the tablebase ?
>>>>Isn't it a little ridiculous.Look here for Tim Krabbe opinion:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess2/diary.htm
>>>>
>>>>[D]5k2/2Q5/8/8/5p2/5P2/5P2/K7 w - - 0 1
>>>What's your point then?  I do this type of move against a human player, there
>>>reason why I do such thing is that the human player is too stubborn to resign,
>>>hence, he is asking for humiliation, and wants to take a long beating. So why
>>>not!!!!  I find playing against this type of position against a human player who
>>>does not want to resign in a totally hopeless position, then he deserves to be
>>>torture to a slow death.  I approve Hiarcs move, it still mates the opponent in
>>>25 moves.  A mate is a mate no matter how many moves. A win is a win.
>>>Laurence
>>I think you are both wrong and too hash to judge that Hiarcs 7.32 cannot play
>>chess. What if this was the 50th move for White?  How many of you would not play
>>the move 50. Qf7+, any other move would lead to the 50th move draw.
>
>
>No
>
>50.Qxf4+ is also winning and 50.Qf7+ can be a drawn by the 50 move rule if there
>were 99 moves without a capture and without another move when 50.Qxf4+ is always
>winning.
>
>Uri
Black must make its 50th move, and it involves a capture.  So my question, when
does the 50th move begins? Let's say that white makes a capture in move XX, and
there are no captures after that, would not the 50th move end with Black?
Laurence



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