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Subject: Re: Crafty 17.10 not that strong

Author: Chessfun

Date: 21:48:44 04/22/00

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On April 22, 2000 at 14:46:28, Pete Galati wrote:

>On April 22, 2000 at 15:02:19, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On April 22, 2000 at 14:49:59, Pete Galati wrote:
>>
>>>On April 22, 2000 at 14:20:57, A.L.Mourik wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello dear CCC friends,
>>>>
>>>>Although earlier reports from e.g. Jouni Uski, suggest an enormous increase in
>>>>strenght for Crafty 17.10
>>>>Nuun 2 match result Fritz6 against Crafty  17.10 ends in a very clear
>>>>29,5-10,5!! victory for Fritz6.
>>>>Played on PII 400 8mb for HT, Timecontrol 5 min + 3 sec per move.
>>>
>>>There isn't generally an enormous increase in strength from version to version
>>>of any program, that's unrealistic to expect there to be.
>>>
>>>Your time controls are a bit short there.
>>>
>>>Pete
>>
>>
>>Why didn't you say or ask that of Jouni when he posted?
>>as all he said was blitz, that may even have been faster
>>than this.
>>Thanks.
>
>Sorry, I don't read all posts, this one caught my eye because it was at the top
>of the board.


You had posted in the thread I referred to.
Which was Sensation Crafty 17-10 beats F6a in nunn1 .


>If Jouni played some games this fast or faster, then my opinion would be the
>same, it's too fast.  That isn't to say that I have not run games at that speed,
>I have, and they were too fast to judge the strength of a program.


None of the Crafty supporters (for lack of a better word) at that
point asked what the time control was or made the statement that
it's optimized for longer time controls.

All posting took the results at face value, wheras IMO the result
is not possible nor reproducable, that is once the actual time control
that produced those results is stated.

If I find otherwise naturally I would retract that statement.

Thanks.




>Pete



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