Author: blass uri
Date: 03:33:59 04/23/00
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On April 23, 2000 at 04:15:48, Christophe Theron wrote: >On April 23, 2000 at 00:43:49, Chessfun wrote: > >>On April 22, 2000 at 18:35:45, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On April 22, 2000 at 13:13:00, Chessfun wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>Since I never got a reply on what those blitz times were on the >>>>previous thread, I played 1 min game, 2 min game, 3 min game and >>>>5 min game. >>>> >>>>I was surprized to read that Crafty 17-10 could beat Fritz 6a >>>>in Nunn 1 blitz as no previous version I had was close. >>>> >>>>All games on Cel 433. >>>>Anyone wanting the games email me. >>>> >>>>1 min game Fritz 6a 14.5 - 5.5 Crafty 17-10 >>>>2 min game Fritz 6a 14.5 - 5.5 Crafty 17-10 >>>>3 min game Fritz 6a 13.0 - 7.0 Crafty 17-10 >>>>5 min game Fritz 6a 15.5 - 4.5 Crafty 17-10 >>>> >>>>Thanks. >>> >>> >>>That's a very interesting experiment. Please, keep on playing with longer time >>>controls. >>> >>>I'm interested in knowing how programs behave when you change the time controls. >>> >>>Let's see if the result change drastically with much longer time controls. >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >>I have played 10 mins (it's posted now I'm trying 25 then will finish >>at 60 mins. >> >>The original intent was I did not believe the post: >>Sensation Crafty 17-10 beats F6 at nunn 1. >> >>Still don't believe it, don't believe the results or the >>games could ever be reporduced. >> >>The hype around the post was all of course it's natural, >>then when F6 wins it's, well, it's only blitz. >> >>Crafty is a fine program, but sometimes there is IMO >>a little bit too much of biased hype surrounding it's >>results. >> >>Thanks. > > >I bet that you'll get the same result (inside the mathematical error margin), >whatever time control you use. > > > > Christophe I believe that if you do enough games you will not get the same result. It seems that Crafty is better at long time control. Based on blitz results you were right that Crafty is 100 elo weaker than the top programs but it seems based on the ssdf games that Crafty is not 100 elo weaker than the top programs at tournament time control inspite of the fact that crafty does not like the ssdf hardware and could earn more 20 elo rating if it used pentium instead of K6III-450. Crafty is only 97 elo weaker than top Fritz6a and Fritz6a is better than the average top program. Maybe the results of blitz games and tournament games do not prove with 95% confidence that crafty is better at long time control but I guess that it is only because of the fact that the ssdf do not have enough games. Uri
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