Author: Chessfun
Date: 11:04:15 04/23/00
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On April 23, 2000 at 13:55:46, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 23, 2000 at 00:43:49, Chessfun wrote: > >>On April 22, 2000 at 18:35:45, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On April 22, 2000 at 13:13:00, Chessfun wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>Since I never got a reply on what those blitz times were on the >>>>previous thread, I played 1 min game, 2 min game, 3 min game and >>>>5 min game. >>>> >>>>I was surprized to read that Crafty 17-10 could beat Fritz 6a >>>>in Nunn 1 blitz as no previous version I had was close. >>>> >>>>All games on Cel 433. >>>>Anyone wanting the games email me. >>>> >>>>1 min game Fritz 6a 14.5 - 5.5 Crafty 17-10 >>>>2 min game Fritz 6a 14.5 - 5.5 Crafty 17-10 >>>>3 min game Fritz 6a 13.0 - 7.0 Crafty 17-10 >>>>5 min game Fritz 6a 15.5 - 4.5 Crafty 17-10 >>>> >>>>Thanks. >>> >>> >>>That's a very interesting experiment. Please, keep on playing with longer time >>>controls. >>> >>>I'm interested in knowing how programs behave when you change the time controls. >>> >>>Let's see if the result change drastically with much longer time controls. >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >>I have played 10 mins (it's posted now I'm trying 25 then will finish >>at 60 mins. >> >>The original intent was I did not believe the post: >>Sensation Crafty 17-10 beats F6 at nunn 1. >> >>Still don't believe it, don't believe the results or the >>games could ever be reporduced. >> >>The hype around the post was all of course it's natural, >>then when F6 wins it's, well, it's only blitz. >> >>Crafty is a fine program, but sometimes there is IMO >>a little bit too much of biased hype surrounding it's >>results. >> >>Thanks. > > >How can you confirm/disprove _anything_??? You don't have the same memory >size, same hash size, same opening book for both programs, to name just a few >variables beyond your ability to reproduce... I have asked about the set up. As for opening book it is Nunn 1 there is no opening book. >I can think of a dozen reasons why you couldn't reproduce _anybody's_ results >if you don't know _everything_ about their configuration and setup... No doubt, but as I have stated I do not believe on any computer with ponder=off that Crafty 17-10 can beat Fritz 6a at Nunn 1. While I would agree that any computer program can beat any other program over a 20 game match. IMO from the Nunn 1 positions Crafty will not beat Fritz 6a. That is to say any equal time control and equal hash settings. Thanks.
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